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| watergypsy |
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 watergypsy L Plate Warrior
Joined: 30 Nov 2010 Karma :  
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 Posted: 08:22 - 30 Nov 2010 Post subject: CG125 help, please! |
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I own a 2000 CG125, my first bike, and it has developed a problem with the clutch. While running, if I open the throttle more than halfway, the engine revs, but is providing no power.
Is this a clutch problem, a gearbox problem, or (please, God) something silly like the clutch cable being in need of adjustment?
I am fairly clueless when it comes to engines but am hoping to do most of the work on this bike myself, as I was told they were straightforward and a good introduction to bike maintenance and repairs, and I'm willing to give anything a go, given a Haynes manual and a heated garage!  |
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 Teflon-Mike tl;dr

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 Posted: 09:01 - 30 Nov 2010 Post subject: |
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That's clutch slip.
Means that the clutch-plates and or springs are worn out.
- Likely on a ten year old learner legal, with gawd knows how many newbies getting to grips with the art of fine clutch control.
Or the clutch cabe is adjusted wrong so that the clutch isn't fully engaging.
- Just as likely given a ten year old learner legal with gawd knows how many newbies using it as an oportunity to learn basic motorcyle maintenence and adjusting it up at the lever end, like they did thier push-bike brakes, rather than at the engine end, like your supposed to.
More likely the clutch plates, but still, worth giving the cabe a go.
That Haynes manual, would be a good start.
Unfortunately, they tend not to give them, (or heated grips away, or Snowtigeress would be muscling her way to the front of the queue, swinging a security chain!) but we-moto will normally get them to you within 48hours given the insentive of a credit card number..... ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?' |
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 VTRkemshell10... Spanner Monkey

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 watergypsy L Plate Warrior
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 Posted: 09:16 - 30 Nov 2010 Post subject: |
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Thanks for the help, will start with adjusting the cable, if that doesn't work move on to buying a new cable, if that doesn't work then I may go and sit in the corner and cry for a bit before taking a deep breath, putting on my big-girl pants and getting serious with the spanners.  |
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| watergypsy wrote: | Thanks for the help, will start with adjusting the cable, if that doesn't work move on to buying a new cable, if that doesn't work then I may go and sit in the corner and cry for a bit before taking a deep breath, putting on my big-girl pants and getting serious with the spanners.  |
Replacing the clutch shouldn't be a major drama. You'll need a full set of clutch plates, and springs. You might get away with just plates, but for the few extra pence its not worth it.
You drain the oil, and take the clutch side engine cover off, and expose cogs and stuff! Clean the gasket faces, then undo maybe four or six small nuts to seperate the clutch basket.
Tricky bit is locking the clutch so you can undo the nuts, but no biggie.
You then take the old plates off, the hub. Theres two sorts, metal and friction. You chuck the old friction plates away, check thatthe metal plates aren't blue, and re-fit them alternating metal plate with new friction plate in the stack, back on teh hub. Put it all back together.
While your in there you might as well remove and clean the oil strainer. Then you can put a new cover gasket on and re-fit the cover. Fill with oil, adjust clutch, and off you go......
A good days work for a first-timer, with a Haynes to guide, a few basic spanners, and a little patience. ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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 tahrey World Chat Champion
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Don't panic! Clutch cables are usually fairly simple affairs on either car or bike.
I don't think mine was properly adjusted or lubed when I got it, I struggled on for quite a long time but it was getting difficult to make a smooth gearchange or pull away without a lurch.
A few minutes work with a pair of mole grips and an oil dropper bottle* later, plus a fair bit of working the lever (and ultimately a couple days for the oil to seep through) and things were a fair bit better. Smoother action, and the clutch actually properly disengaged, or at least as much as a wet one does...
If you're getting slip, you just need to adjust it the opposite way to what I did, in the first instance (er... I can't remember which - but for you, probably turn it clockwise (top of outer, narrower knurled screw turning towards front of bike) to lessen how much cable is pulled for a particular degree of lever pull?). If that doesn't help it even if you make a massive adjustment, ensure it's well lubricated, that the actual clutch release lever isn't sticking at the other end (down on the right-hand side of the crankcase, near the brake pedal - can lube its axle a little bit as well).
Should all these fail, then it's probably time for a replacement, which may be a home job but I'd just as rather leave the professionals having been warned off of it by others on here! There's all kinds of fiddly bits like springs and pulling the old one and making sure the new one's properly centred and... oh, just let a career mechanic deal with the training and tool cost. There are other less stressful jobs you can do yourself to save money if you're strapped at this beginner stage, and maybe learn to do that one later.
*(or you can use forceps, pliers, scissor-action bottle opener, strong and thick-skinned fingers (so long as it's not too greasy), whatever... alternative to the dropper could be a bottle of 3-in-1 bicycle oil from halfords with integrated dropper nozzle, or the cheap pack of mini-syringes they sell - whatever lets you force some random-grade oil down the cable casing) |
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