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 DirtBar Two Stroke Sniffer
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 Posted: 21:01 - 01 Aug 2004 Post subject: Derestricted DT Problem. |
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Hello, i been poking at my bike all day (DT125R 1998) to derestrict it, first i took off the exhuast and used the pullys to open the power valve all the way, but with it open all the way i got no power at all till 7000rpm, then it would snap my neck and be out of the power band in a milli second, sounds cool but as soon as you left the power band it would sort of flat line even in 6th as if the bike was not geting enough petro. so ive shut it about 3/4 of the way open, getting good acceleration, but again top end is terrible, i get like 60 tops.
i should also mention that i have disconected the valve servo because it did not seem to operate properly. when you started the bike it would open the valve and then close it, but when giving it some revs it was not opening up the valve (this was in netual) mate asured my that even in netural the valve would still open.
basically i dont know if i need the valve operating on a servo to get better top end, (maybe it need to close a bit for better top speed, at the moment its jammed open)
or mabe i need better Jets to feed more petrol?
phew this is a big one
thanks.....l |
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 Posted: 21:13 - 01 Aug 2004 Post subject: |
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ok listen up i will tell you, got a pen??? ok here goes
1. first you have to stop what you are doing
2. you have to place an ad in bike mart for a 98 dt125
3. once you have sold it then you must buy a faster bike or if you are old enough pass your DAS and get a proper bike
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 Posted: 21:15 - 01 Aug 2004 Post subject: |
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That all sounds perfectly normal to me. I would expect opening the powervalve to give you a razor thin, virtually unuseable powerband and nil acceleration. Variations between normal and that by degrees of opening.
As far as I am aware, the servo does not open the powervalve on ANY UK model DT125 as they are not fitted with a powervalve control box. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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I've heard that the standard exhausts are heavily restricted, even with the power valve completely open.
Try get your mitts on a full DEP system, try ebay, they are fairly common/cheap on there  ____________________ Aprilia RSV Mille R Edwards Replica - Aprilia RS250 - Suzuki GSXR600 Supersport Race Bike |
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 Posted: 22:26 - 01 Aug 2004 Post subject: |
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just tryed that, was exactly the same apart from it sounded alot cooler  |
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 Posted: 01:11 - 02 Aug 2004 Post subject: |
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yeah thought that might be the case, but surely if the valves jammed fully open it would take all power from the bottom end and move it to the top right?
my bike just sticks at 60, my mates 1994 does over 80, just been out on it properly its loads better.
tomorrow i will reconect the servo and ride around with the cover off to see if the valve accually opens up while i am moving.
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This bike is a complete bitch, we spent all day poking it with pliers and stuff
Basically the powervalve SHOULD do something when revved passed 8000rpm but its not doing anything. I'm think a wire that connects the powervalve to the rev meter is not connected or something.
With the powervalve jammed open I quite liked it however with full throttle the bike was just really stuttery, this I think is down to the petrol flow. I have suggested a bigger jet could be in order.
Are there any other restrictions that could be on the bike? Do they bother restricting the carb? We have tried the bike with a full DEP exhaust system and it still won't go over 62MPH. |
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 Posted: 13:42 - 02 Aug 2004 Post subject: |
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oki, i got a guide on how to derestrict and it says this in one part...
“ONLY ON SOME 97 THROUGH 2000 MODELS”
AT THE BOTTOM OF THE TWO STOKE OIL TANK AT THE FRONT YOU WILL FIND A SMALL SILVER/GREY BOX WITH FOUR WIRES COMING OUT OF IT - THESE ARE WIRES SWITCHING THE ORIGINAL CDI UNIT - THE COLOURED WIRES ARE RED, YELLOW, BLUE AND GREEN.
THE RED GOES ON A BROWN OUT OF THE REGULATOR
THE YELLOW GOES TO A RED / WHITE STRIPED - INTO THE IGNITION PULSE COIL UNDER THE LEFT HAND ENGINE CASING.
THE GREEN GOES TO THE RED/WHITE FROM THE CDI
THE BLUE GOES INTO A PLUG FROM WHERE THE YELLOW ONE IS COMING FROM.
NOW FOR THE CHANGES - TAKE THE RED ONE - MARK IT AND ISOLATE IT - DO THE SAME FOR THE BLUE ONE. YELLOW AND GREEN WILL REMAIN, JOIN THEM TOGETHER THEN JOIN THE 2 REMAINING RED/WHITE STRIPED WIRES. MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS PROPERLY INSULATED AND REASSEMBLED. HOPE YOU GOT ALL THAT !!!!! READ IT A FEW TIMES AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND IT.
ive attached some pics of a couple of boxes
does anyone know if these boxes are the ones? different colured wires  |
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 Posted: 19:04 - 02 Aug 2004 Post subject: bike |
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power valve has to be fully open!!! i mean absolutly fully or your just goign to be tuning for a very small about of revs, like 3 lol
found my fresco pipe if ya want it, its stupidly powerfull/peeky, you will need to go from 120->150 minimum if you run this ( later dt-s had 150 jets stock, again i would go 170-180 for them? at a guess)
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 Posted: 19:31 - 02 Aug 2004 Post subject: |
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i definatly interested in the pipe, but i had a full dep system on it yestuday and it gave me no performance increase what so ever
so i need to sort my rev problems out 1st
dreading taking it to a real mechanic, cost laods  |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 22 years, 71 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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