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Ed Case
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 03 Dec 2010    Post subject: British citizenship. Reply with quote

I've become so pissed-off with my(?) country in the last couple of years listening to in the 'media' of foreign radicals, suspected or proven terrorists who are 'incomers' and have achieved 'British' citizenship and refuse to behave in the manner required as guests. I wrote to my MP, Jeremy Lefroy, a Tory, who'd have thought it ?, suggesting that if these people can't or won't accept reasonable standards of behaviour why should they not be stripped of their citizenship and returned to their country of origin ?. 'Human Rights' also require 'Human Responsibility' and we shouldn't have to put up with this abuse of our hospitality. He replied positively to several other points I put to him but carefully side-stepped the crux of my letter.
We really do have a gutless, spineless administration in the UK where the only people discriminated against are the 'British' themselves.
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PostPosted: 16:49 - 03 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a similar discussion with friends today, and it one I do not approach lightly, but in the midst of the deep conversation I did say this albeit not the exact same way... We too in our community of men woman and children have those that will cause problems and commit crime, we do not beat these people, throw them away or have them put down, and maybe we shouldn't expect to do anything different to those that have come across the sea's to settle here than we do to our own people, for we are all men woman and children sharing this earth. But there is no set solution for these problems and I don't mean to cause any offence to any one by what I have said.
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 03 Dec 2010    Post subject: Re: British citizenship. Reply with quote

Ed Case wrote:
where the only people discriminated against are the 'British' themselves.

Not reality. See the recent student thread discussing the various parts of society targetted by them amongst many, many other instances.

I get pretty annoyed by the number of British Citizens that behave badly. I don't really care what colour skin they have or where they were born - I care about how they act regardless.

The BNP seems to be in tune with your views as described here.
I do think the general immigration situation needs to be tightened up on in various ways. I don't think tabloid polotics is the answer.
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 03 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny that isn't it?

Indians, Chinese and Africans said exactly the same things about their imperial overlords back in the days of empire. Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 03 Dec 2010    Post subject: Re: British citizenship. Reply with quote

G wrote:
I get pretty annoyed by the number of British Citizens that behave badly. I don't really care what colour skin they have or where they were born - I care about how they act regardless


Ditto this sentiment, and Itchy's. Karma
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 03 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

nsr_J22_FOXEYE wrote:
I don't mean to cause any offence to any one by what I have said.

What did you actually say?
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 03 Dec 2010    Post subject: Re: British citizenship. Reply with quote

G wrote:

I get pretty annoyed by the number of British Citizens that behave badly.


Agreed. Maybe we could extend the proposal Ed puts forward and strip a few British Citizens of British Citizenship.

Reinstate the punishment of outlawry for being an obnoxious waste of air. They are stripped of citizenship and given 24h to gtfo (not our problem where, boot them out of court and they have to go, horsewhipped out of town if they aren't going fast enough). If they are seen in the UK after that time has elapsed, they go straight to a prison camp and stay there until they die. Anyone who gives them food, money or shelter gets the same.
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 03 Dec 2010    Post subject: Re: British citizenship. Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
G wrote:

I get pretty annoyed by the number of British Citizens that behave badly.


Agreed. Maybe we could extend the proposal Ed puts forward and strip a few British Citizens of British Citizenship.

Reinstate the punishment of outlawry for being an obnoxious waste of air. They are stripped of citizenship and given 24h to gtfo (not our problem where, boot them out of court and they have to go, horsewhipped out of town if they aren't going fast enough). If they are seen in the UK after that time has elapsed, they go straight to a prison camp and stay there until they die. Anyone who gives them food, money or shelter gets the same.


True, but a few people will have to remain in Scotland to look after the Golf courses.
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Ed Case
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 03 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome back Harold !.
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PostPosted: 00:45 - 04 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no such thing as nationality.

Society is now almost entirely governed by individual greed and gain.

If you could make £10m by letting in 10 'foreign' ex-cons, you probably would. So your 'morals' are only worth so much.

Like I always say, there are no race riots in millionaire's row in chelsea. Everyone seems to get along fine when they have a few quid.
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PostPosted: 06:18 - 04 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

First generation radicals and illegal immigrants should be sent home, or to a country we suspect of being their home (many hide their passports so they can't be deported!). As for second generation immigrants or "British" people, you cannot deport them as that would make them stateless. If some of you are alluding to kicking out the BNP, then you will first need to create a state for them, like Israel, though that would probably be none too clever as it would soon grow with the amount of Americans, Brits, French, Germans ect that would voluntarily move there because they are angry with how their countries are being overrun by Hispanics, Africans, Turks ect. The last thing we need a white supremacist state, full of mostly middle class and quite well educated whites, with a productive conservative economy and no doubt a very potent military.
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 04 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah. I said just tell undesirables to leave and if they're caught here again it'll be back to the deliberately unpleasant as possible prison camp.

Not our problem where they go and how they get there as long as it isn't here.

The French have sucessfully applied this policy to illegal immigrants for years. Lots of them land up here, but from the French point of view, they're not in France.
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 04 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raffles wrote:
nsr_J22_FOXEYE wrote:
I don't mean to cause any offence to any one by what I have said.

What did you actually say?




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