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PostPosted: 18:25 - 04 Dec 2010    Post subject: Julian Assange Reply with quote

Interpol Arrest Warrant issued today.

https://www.interpol.int/public/data/wanted/notices/data/2010/86/2010_52486.asp

Fkin ridiculous. Seems like some fabricated shit to me.....
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 04 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the rape charges were dropped ages ago? I guess it's the easiest thing to pin on him. Once they get him he will disappear of be involved in an accident.
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 04 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ai, but whatcha gonna do.

If I was him I would just leave me life and go to some random place with a new identity somehow.

Either way he's fucked.
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 04 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweden has some insane rape laws. In that in pure numbers Sweden is number #2 rape capital in the world. One distortion is that rape is an uber umbrella term in Sweden whereby it is quite feasible for somebody to say yes to a quickie in the bushes. THEN to change their mind sometime later.

This is a nice summary

https://www.crikey.com.au/2010/12/02/when-it-comes-to-assange-r-pe-case-the-swedes-are-making-it-up-as-they-go-along/
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 04 Dec 2010    Post subject: Re: Julian Assange Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:

Fkin ridiculous. Seems like some fabricated shit to me.....


^^^^ This +1.

I`d lay money on it, that it`s a dirty trick to shut him up Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 04 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really does sound like 2 evil women are conspiring to gain fame and publicity by destroying the creditability of someone who has become famous by destroying the creditability of others. They're probably being paid to do it by friends of friends of the CIA or some shit.
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PostPosted: 06:32 - 05 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/12/04/julian-assange-was-accused-of-rape-by-anna-ardin-a-radical-feminist-who-was-out-for-revenge/
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 05 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guy has power over the whole world with his knowledge of other countries and powers goings on, don't you think that a few skanks being shagged when they don't want to be means anything to him? He has power over the world. His ego must be flying higher than any ego has ever flown before. Do you really believe he is doing all this stuff for the good? He is doing it for one reason and one reason only. Power.
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PostPosted: 10:34 - 05 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He has power over the world. His ego must be flying higher than any ego has ever flown before. Do you really believe he is doing all this stuff for the good? He is doing it for one reason and one reason only. Power.


What kind of power? Since Wikileaks is run by donations and he doesn't charge for the information either. If governments acted like they pretended to act then people like him would not be required. Much like Ghandi was critical of Christians who didn't act like Jesus.

But governments act in nasty unpleasant ways and hide it this necessitating people like this. To reveal the truth about what goes on behind closed doors. But apparently people like you WANT rights to be suppressed and WANT governments to act without any form of oversight and accountability.

Your arguement is like Kinnock's EU corruption arguement, i.e. you shoot the messager and go ad hominem against the messenger rather than the real culprit. This is done in an attempt to absolve the wrong doer of his or her actions. But in the end who is the bad guy the messenger or the people doing the bad things.


As said if governments did not act in such a manner people like assange wouldn't be needed.
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 05 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
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He has power over the world. His ego must be flying higher than any ego has ever flown before. Do you really believe he is doing all this stuff for the good? He is doing it for one reason and one reason only. Power.


What kind of power? Since Wikileaks is run by donations and he doesn't charge for the information either. If governments acted like they pretended to act then people like him would not be required. Much like Ghandi was critical of Christians who didn't act like Jesus.

But governments act in nasty unpleasant ways and hide it this necessitating people like this. To reveal the truth about what goes on behind closed doors. But apparently people like you WANT rights to be suppressed and WANT governments to act without any form of oversight and accountability.

Your arguement is like Kinnock's EU corruption arguement, i.e. you shoot the messager and go ad hominem against the messenger rather than the real culprit. This is done in an attempt to absolve the wrong doer of his or her actions. But in the end who is the bad guy the messenger or the people doing the bad things.


As said if governments did not act in such a manner people like assange wouldn't be needed.


Have you seen Techno Viking? Skudd is the one handing him the bottle of water. Laughing

The craven slave-mentality is what keeps the scum in power I'm afraid. Skudd is just a perfect example of that mentality, in spades.
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 05 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julian Assange is a bit of a funny bugger at the best of times from what I've read about him.

I strongly suspect he has been totally prepared for something like this for quite some time and has planned for it.

My bet is they'll never find him and his posts will keep appearing. He has a good enough knowledge of internet security to ensure they wont be able to trace him. There are enough anonymous, barely moderated boards on the internet that there is no way they could silence him totally. They could take down wikileaks as soon as it popped up somewhere but you can't censor the whole internet.

Most of the "criminals" out there are stupid, they make mistakes. That's how the police catch them. Julian Assange strikes me as pretty smart, probably a lot smarter than the people looking for him.

I believe his website is being subjected to a sustained DDOS attack too? I find it hard to believe it would be the "usual" crew behind this.
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 05 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

DDoS is nothing, their DNS was pulled in the US along with every server they had there. Paypall got coerced into shutting down Wikileaks accounts.

There are memos being sent out to all government contractors and federal workers in the US, ordering not to read any Wikileaks documents. Some Unis are getting the same treatment, with students receiving the recommendation to look the other way, if they happen to come across such files, or face being blacklisted from any future gov'ment work that requires security clearance.

The above measures have been taken in response to the upcoming Major US bank file dump in Jan, 2011 by WL, NOT cablegate (diplomatic cables).

I hope the amateur mini-fascists in the US gov'ment pull off something stupid, so we can finally get access to the 256bit AES-encrypted 1.4 GB insurance file, that Wikileaks posted some months ago.

P.S. Assange was in SE London 2 days ago and police knew where he was staying, yet did nothing due to reasons stated in the last paragraph. JA is just a messenger.
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PostPosted: 15:58 - 05 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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DDoS is nothing, their DNS was pulled in the US along with every server they had there.


The DDoS attack was used as the excuse for pulling the site under the DNS servers terms of service.

In the UK, it's only illegal to distribute "secret" information if you've signed the official secrets act. Hence the huge number of "leaks" from Whitehall we see arriving in the press.

Anyone know how American laws stand on this? I'd have thought they'd be even more relaxed, what with it being "the land of the free" and such but maybe not?
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 05 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The scum and filth really take exception to having their slimy rocks overturned. Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 05 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Long live Wikileaks and may everybody take a good look before the faceless grey c*nts in power find a way of nobbling it!
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 05 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

'least I got to donate before PayPal bent over and took it in the arse Thumbs Down Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 20:25 - 05 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hetzers usual piffle and shite


Been out on the bike lately? Oh sorry, bikes are for the sheep and you are too busy with your critical thoughts. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 00:19 - 06 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
Hetzer wrote:
Hetzers usual piffle and shite


Been out on the bike lately? Oh sorry, bikes are for the sheep and you are too busy with your critical thoughts. Rolling Eyes


Nice comeback... Neutral

You leave your critical thinking for somebody else to do?

You constantly project your own cynical, selfish perception on to others, assuming they are like minded.

I think you have self esteem issues. Which is why you can only see negative in people. Your a pessimist, but you probably tell yourself your a realist.

You have totally disregarded the possibility that Assange is motivated by truth.

Some of us are controlled by ego's, Some of us control our ego's.

Get back to us when you see sense. We'l be waiting here with open arms, because we don't hate you.... even when you hate yourself Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:32 - 06 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Get back to us when you see sense. We'l be waiting here with open arms, because we don't hate you.... even when you hate yourself Laughing


We'll be waiting a loooooooooooooooong time. Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:52 - 06 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You have totally disregarded the possibility that Assange is motivated by truth.


Just as you have totally disregarded the possibility that he is being manipulated as a "useful idiot". Moreover, now that he is being lauded as a messiah of truth by malcontents, it will be far easier to justify imposing controls on the Internet in the name of national security, anti-terrorism or whatever other cause célèbre his puppetmasters choose.
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PostPosted: 01:14 - 06 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

bazza wrote:
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You have totally disregarded the possibility that Assange is motivated by truth.


Just as you have totally disregarded the possibility that he is being manipulated as a "useful idiot". Moreover, now that he is being lauded as a messiah of truth by malcontents, it will be far easier to justify imposing controls on the Internet in the name of national security, anti-terrorism or whatever other cause célèbre his puppetmasters choose.


So the choices were:

a) Never use the internet to expose scum for what they are, lest they impose controls to prevent further exposes.

b) Expose scum and see them impose controls to prevent further exposes.

Hmm. Yeah, some fucking choice.

Assange got the damage done before the scum imposed controls anyway. Is he being manipulated? To do what, expose scum? More of that manipulation then please. Keep it coming. Until the cows come home. We like seeing scum turned out from under their slimy rocks. The political filth, the scum, the vermin, the two-faced sub-human liars and cheats and murderers and thieves.

Assange rocks. Period.
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PostPosted: 01:17 - 06 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

bazza wrote:
FIRE_NSR wrote:
You have totally disregarded the possibility that Assange is motivated by truth.


Just as you have totally disregarded the possibility that he is being manipulated as a "useful idiot". Moreover, now that he is being lauded as a messiah of truth by malcontents, it will be far easier to justify imposing controls on the Internet in the name of national security, anti-terrorism or whatever other cause célèbre his puppetmasters choose.


There are many possibilities, thats why I use the word.

I agree an effective way to determine truth is to study the outcome that unravels as a result of the media attention, but we will never know the real truth, so speculation can only take one so far.

Im just pointing out to Skudd he doesn't have to bring up his insecurities everytime someone does something he cannot intelligently explain.
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PostPosted: 04:36 - 06 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel, laws? In the US, circa 2010? Laughing

The only difference between United States and China at this point is: the commies execute their political prisoners publicly, while the land of the sheep and home of the slaves suicides whomever comes close to exposing the Establishment.

This is turning out to be a "Us & Them" and people have already started taking sides.
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 06 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is he being manipulated? To do what, expose scum? More of that manipulation then please. Keep it coming. Until the cows come home.


He's releasing low-level stuff just interesting enough to tickle the outrage glands of the professionally outraged. Oh - and he has a government source (or two).

How could he possibly be anything other than what he claims?
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 06 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

bazza wrote:
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Is he being manipulated? To do what, expose scum? More of that manipulation then please. Keep it coming. Until the cows come home.


He's releasing low-level stuff just interesting enough to tickle the outrage glands of the professionally outraged. Oh - and he has a government source (or two).

How could he possibly be anything other than what he claims?


Who cares? The scum hate it and that's good enough for me.
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