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Straker
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 07 Dec 2010    Post subject: Bus incident - attempt claim? Reply with quote

Hi All,

A complete cock of a Greenline bus driver nudged me from behind today outside Victoria Station. I slipped in front of him in gridlock traffic and he obviously took offence and purposely gave me a nudge. I lost my balance and almost dropped the bike (CBR 600F). I have not had an opportunity to check in detail for any damage but at worst could be scratches or a minor crack in the back end plastic. I calmly pulled to the side of the road and managed to get his details (he gave them through gritted teeth).

If this had been a genuine accident I would have walked away and acknowledged it as a minor oversight by the driver. The fact that it was obvious that he did it in anger really bugs me and makes me want to pursue it further. His attitude also stank roadside.

Would love to know peoples thoughts on this. Didn't manage to get any independent witnesses (was a bit too shocked and didn't think clearly at the time). Is it worth me bothering to follow up with the bus company? If nothing else I would like to think of him getting a reprimand. Shouldn't be on the road if he has that much of a temper problem.

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PostPosted: 22:12 - 07 Dec 2010    Post subject: Re: Bus incident - attempt claim? Reply with quote

Straker wrote:
Hi All,

A complete cock of a Greenline bus driver nudged me from behind today outside Victoria Station. I slipped in front of him in gridlock traffic and he obviously took offence and purposely gave me a nudge. I lost my balance and almost dropped the bike (CBR 600F). I have not had an opportunity to check in detail for any damage but at worst could be scratches or a minor crack in the back end plastic. I calmly pulled to the side of the road and managed to get his details (he gave them through gritted teeth).

If this had been a genuine accident I would have walked away and acknowledged it as a minor oversight by the driver. The fact that it was obvious that he did it in anger really bugs me and makes me want to pursue it further. His attitude also stank roadside.

Would love to know peoples thoughts on this. Didn't manage to get any independent witnesses (was a bit too shocked and didn't think clearly at the time). Is it worth me bothering to follow up with the bus company? If nothing else I would like to think of him getting a reprimand. Shouldn't be on the road if he has that much of a temper problem.

thanks
Straker


Phone them up and report it. Without witnesses it might not come to much, but then again it might.
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 07 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

All depends if there any marks on his bus really.

But still phone the bus company tomorrow.

If your really up to it, check if there is any cctv that might have caught the prick doing his shit on you
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 07 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell the bus company,......... if he did it to you , he might of done it before?
It may go on his record, then if he does it again, he might lose his job.
That wont be such a bad thing if he is the type to go around doing things like that to bikers.

He tried to f*ck your sh*t up so why dont you f*ck his sh*it up?
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 07 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed, tell the company.

Nothing might happen legal wise, but the company might give him an arse kicking!
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 07 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

what a w*anker. some bloke in a white van a few weeks ago must have seen me overtaking a line of cars behind him so when i got up to him he sort of sat just over the white line as if to say 'ur not overtaking me' i had a little look an though naahh not goin to risk it so i dropped in behind him n left a nice gap between me n him.

then were coming up to a round a bout with lights so i start slowin early n heard this klunk noise so i quckly glanced down thinking fuck whats just come off my bike. looked up an he had slammed his breaks on for no reson as he was the only vehicle infront stopped 20 feet from the traffic lights! i had to fuckin ram my breaks on stopped 1 foot if that from his bumped, when he didnt hear a 'bang' on the back of his van he pulled off again up to the junction then drove off! fuckin dick. if i wernt goin work i wuda chased him down!!!

i put all of this down to he jjust didnt like bikers what kind of mentality do some people have trying to cause a accident because it would have been 'my fault' for going into the back of him.

so if i were u id cause as much shit as possible for him!!!
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 07 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you truly harmed and innocent if so why did you not insist an ambulance was called because of your whiplash? If they attend so must the police. Then again we all lose it at times, I have put a few car windows in over the years and booted more than my share of doors Mr. Green
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If you persue this it will cost the driver his job, is it worth it, can you live with your guilt?
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 07 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a complete arse. I absolutely hate bus drivers that bully other traffic just because they are in a bigger vehicle, but that is just too far. Even if it was accidental (which with his attitude it doesn't seem like it was) why was he moving so close to you if you were in gridlock traffic and were getting nowhere?

As somebody else said, there might be CCTV that captured if, especially if you were in town centre. How old was the bus itself? I know that new First buses have cameras all over the the bus on the inside, and also outside, so if it did have cameras, they could have captured the incident.

Good luck, whatever you do.
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PostPosted: 00:05 - 08 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed ring them asap Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:06 - 08 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you think it was deliberate then report it to the police. Shit driving is one thing, deliberately dangerous driving is another.

Even if nothing comes of it due to lack of evidence, it might make him think twice next time.

Most buses these days are wired up to f*** with CCTV. If you have a good idea of the time it's pretty easy to locate the incident. In my experience most companies delete the footage within 5 days. so if you ARE going to do something, do it pretty quickly.
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PostPosted: 06:33 - 08 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mister James wrote:
Most buses these days are wired up to f*** with CCTV. If you have a good idea of the time it's pretty easy to locate the incident. In my experience most companies delete the footage within 5 days. so if you ARE going to do something, do it pretty quickly.


This.

Given my experience when rammed by a foreign lorry while I was in my car (putting 2 big bolt holes through the rear wing), the police won't give a monkey's if there's no other evidence.
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PostPosted: 09:53 - 08 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ring the bus company weather it was an accident or not, nearly all bus companies are basically self insured so have a pot put aside just for accidents.

The company i work for has an insurance excess of £250k so it would need to be a huge accident before they claim, instead any claim that come in is automatically assigned a set amount of money depending on how bad it is.

For something like that you could probably get £1500 - £2000 just to get you to go away.

And screw the driver, it's drivers like that that give the rest of us a bad name.
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 08 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariel Badger wrote:
Are you truly harmed and innocent if so why did you not insist an ambulance was called because of your whiplash? If they attend so must the police.


Because if you don't need it it's taking the piss.
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PostPosted: 10:27 - 08 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

theguvnor wrote:
Ariel Badger wrote:
Are you truly harmed and innocent if so why did you not insist an ambulance was called because of your whiplash? If they attend so must the police.


Because if you don't need it it's taking the piss.

Sadly it's not taking the piss, it's ensuring the evidence points the blame to the correct person.
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 08 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

So its a case of sod the poor bastard that dies needing an ambulance, I have to have one for the evidence?

Not a great attitude, ownership of a motorbike does not give you the right to demand something you don't actually need the use of. Like hoax calling and the woman who rang for her stolen snowman, its a waste of resources.
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 08 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

theguvnor wrote:
So its a case of sod the poor bastard that dies needing an ambulance, I have to have one for the evidence?

Not a great attitude, ownership of a motorbike does not give you the right to demand something you don't actually need the use of. Like hoax calling and the woman who rang for her stolen snowman, its a waste of resources.


stolen snowman!!! ha ha do you thing she was blonde and really the snowman melted?
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 08 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariel Badger wrote:
Are you truly harmed and innocent if so why did you not insist an ambulance was called because of your whiplash? If they attend so must the police. Then again we all lose it at times, I have put a few car windows in over the years and booted more than my share of doors Mr. Green
Forgive and forget IMHO

If you persue this it will cost the driver his job, is it worth it, can you live with your guilt?

To be honest I have read the whole thread, and I think I have to tend to agree with Ariel here.

Is the bike damaged?
Are you hurt?
If the answer is no, shrug it off, not worth the hassle, if you do claim off the bus company you will have to inform your insurance company anyway, may cost you more in the long run, can't see what you would gain from it really, if there is no damage.

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PostPosted: 13:13 - 08 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I shall semi-shrug it off (no damage, no injuries) but still report to the bus company in the hope that the driver gets a bollocking.

If his attitude hadn't been so bad I would not even call the bus company.
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 08 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well i doubt he done it on purpose, he's edged forward into a space that is not there caus you budged in

Pretty presumptive for someone who wasn't there. Confused

I'd say ring the company too, then at least he'll think twice about doing it again, either accidentally or deliberately.
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 08 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

London bus drivers have periodic safety reviews and stuff like this affects them. I know this because one deliberately pulled out of his lane and forced me into another lane scraping the wing of a car. The bus driver was all for driving off until I told him he was leaving the scene of an accident he had caused and the car driver agreed. In the end he said it was only a little scratch on the car and he would pay for it himself because he had a review coming up.

I would check the bike for damage and if there isn't any simply report the driver to the company for the incident. Could be he didn't intend to actually hit you and just had a grudge against bike riders (especially since they now have to share their personal lanes with us) so wanted to intimidate you a bit. Either way, he should be accountable for his actions and he COULD have made you topple and suffer a busted leg etc.
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 08 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

CptBlack wrote:
Sadly it's not taking the piss, it's ensuring the evidence points the blame to the correct person.


Using up the valuable / limited time of at least two police officers, a squad car, an ambulance and however many paramedics... just because you want to get one up on some prick in a minor road rage incident? Grow a pair of balls man!

Sure, inform the bus company and swap insurance details if there was any real damage done to either vehicle, but don't involve emergency services if it isn't an emergency.
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 08 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't the buses fitted with cameras?
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 08 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you just a twat or genuinely stupid? buses are big have flat fronts and braking performance is not one of their best assets. Have you ever looked at a bus parked in traffic? They stop about 2 feet apart front their front and the bus in front.

You cut this guy up as he was closing this gap he is entitled to have, giving him no time to stop, and your pissing the bed about it?

Grow up! Just because you ride a bike doesn't give you the right to occupy any open space on the road.
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