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Demonic69 wrote: | MarJay wrote: | I also have to ask why (in the interests of fairness) why W@nkel assumed that we wouldn't know what a Norton F1 was? |
Sounds like a lot of the BW crowd think we're all 15 and only have a vague interest in bikes. I mean no offence to them but some think that because we don't go to MCC rallies and because we like trackdays that we're not proper bikers.
Oh and apparently riding a sportsbike is a bit detrimental to the biker's good name. |
There is without a doubt a higher proportion of younger /newer riders on here compared to BW, which is cool and to be encouraged, (if only to give the old `uns someone to take the piss out of and pass worldly wise tales on to ). I think that many of the folk who have posted on this thread are the petrolheads/ spanner monkeys /tech junkies /bike anoraks that inhabit this particular forum, hence the knowledge shown. The target audience (who wouldn`t have had a clue) didn`t bother with it.
As for the rally/trackday thing, I am planning on taking some pics this weekend (at the Badger Bash) and posting them on here, hopefully to give folks some idea what the deal is, you never know, you might enjoy it.
As for a trackday, I would love one, I`m not sure how well the Zed would cope, but it would deff be a laugh. Its mostly the cost that puts me off, for the price of a trackday I could have at least a full weekend of partying, bands etc at a rally.
The sportsbike/bad name bit is a whole `nuther topic, tied in to born agains and all sort of other stuff that (if I can be arsed) I may post about another time, personally I like sportsbikes, especially broken ones (but then I never buy anything that runs ) ____________________ Trust me, I`m an engineer
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Demonic69 wrote: | Sounds like a lot of the BW crowd think we're all 15 and only have a vague interest in bikes. I mean no offence to them but some think that because we don't go to MCC rallies and because we like trackdays that we're not proper bikers.Oh and apparently riding a sportsbike is a bit detrimental to the biker's good name. |
Oh dear! there does seem to be a 'them and us' thing going on here. I can only speak for myself and not for all BWers. Ive no doubt that some BWers will disagree with my views.
I will admit that having had a look at the ages of BCF members (on the ages thread) before i posted, i thought that you would be more likely to associate 'Norton' with anti-virus than with bikes! LOL (in jest). Im not sure where the 'only have a vague interest in bikes' bit comes in, what leads you to imagine that we think that?
As i said before, i assumed that a fair percentage of BCFers would not be aware that only 10-15 years ago the Honda RC30s, Suzi GSXRs, Yam OW01s, Kwak ZXRs and Ducati 851s etc were getting a pasting in the UK from Norton. This was simply due to the ages of most of the peeps on here. Obviously some of you are old enough to remember the war. Im sure that the majority of you are true bike nuts, age has nothing to do with that. One of my 17yr old Nephews is suitably obsessed with bikes (Aprilia RS125).
Erm, 'because we don't go to MCC rallies', but i thought that some of you go to the 'Rock and Blues' and the 'Bulldog'!!? You dont get much more MC than that.
Trackdays... i did a single season of club racing on a CBR600 in 1990 and enjoyed it immensely but at my age i think im perhaps better suited to sitting in a field drinking beer and letching at the bikes and babes passing by. Ive done a couple of 1/4 mile events this year.
Personally, i think the 'Powerangers' v Chop riders / Streetfighters v Scooterists / Classics v retros etc etc mentality is very silly these days. I have owned 15 bikes over the years, all over 500cc with either 1/2/3/or 4 cylinders (or non in the case of the wankel) as diverse in style as a Ducati Supersport and a Harley 1200. We are all bikers as far as im concerned and we should stick together and fight against those who wish to take our freedom away from us, not amongst ourselves. Its good that we are individuals and have differing opinions but alienating fellow bikers by saying 'Sportsbike riders are a menace to biking because they are all out to kill themselves' or 'Chop riders are a menace because they are perceived as a threat to society' etc, does not, in my opinion, help to serve our cause.
Lets all enjoy biking together, the mods v rockers days are long gone. ____________________
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*waves to W4nkel*
Can't think of anything to say now.....
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Doh, don't lets you & me get started on the subject of Viragos again!
Although I have to admit that my hankering after one has diminished somewhat (somewhat? make that totally!) since getting my Eliminator.
I now intend to make it my lifes ambition to graduate slowly upwards through the whole range.....
...this year the 250, next year the 400, in no time at all I shall be menacing innocent bystanders on the ZL1000, hahaha!  ____________________ Sod falling in love, I wanna fall in chocolate.  |
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You still wouldn't find me dead on a british bike They're still shite! No wonder they went bust when you see the build quality of the things, they're a waste of raw materials, energy & the designers should've shot at birth by their own mothers.
Right enough of this banter, I'm off to actually ride my bike to my bike club's meet instead of sitting like a sad loser in front of the keyboard wishing I had some actual friends instead of just virtual ones.  ____________________ Karma!! Fuck Karma, I am Satan's little helper.
& I'm considerably faster than yow!
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Superabusa wrote: |
Right enough of this banter, I'm off to actually ride my bike to my bike club's meet instead of sitting like a sad loser in front of the keyboard wishing I had some actual friends instead of just virtual ones.  | OK then WTF are you doing on here if you don't sit in front of a keyboard talking to 'virtual' people.
I can say that there is probably only one or two regular members on this forum that I have not met.
Now, on to British bikes...
Superabusa wrote: | You still wouldn't find me dead on a british bike  They're still shite!  No wonder they went bust when you see the build quality of the things, they're a waste of raw materials, energy & the designers should've shot at birth by their own mothers.  : |
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
I'll have you know that my last bike happened to be a Suzuki. It corroded to powder after the first whiff of winter salt, and it looked like someone had shotblasted it all over. Another regular member of this forum once stripped down his Suzuki Bandit 1200 and found that there was more rust than paint on the frame!
I have ridden my Triumph Daytona through a whole winter, and nothing has broken, nothing has corroded, nothing has even looked like it might fall off. It has taken all of my hamfisted abuse and is begging for more. The subframes have never been known to fall apart whilst riding!
I would be happy to take your fat old BUSa at a track such as cadwell park. My bike does not exel in the area of handling, nor top speed, but I bet it would give your bike a run for its money.
I think that you are the sort of person who makes disrespectful comments about British bikes, having never ridden one before. (oh and a 1967 bonnie when you were a lad doesn't count).
He who is without sin should cast the first stone and all that.... There are 'failings' in every bike, but I would never dream of saying "All japanese bike designers should have been shot at birth."
Come to me with a coherent argument against british bikes, and I'll be here waiting...  ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
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Well all you BW lot had better be nice to me  ____________________ Back on a Blade. Just feels so right. |
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I agree with some of the comments on Brit bikes. The QC on them was non-existant, which is a major reason for them going under. I had a mate who bought an A10 road rocket brand new which seized 20 miles out of the shop...turns out noone had bothered to drill some of the major oilways in the block!. Another had FIVE C15s before he got one that didn't self-destruct within the first month...and as for Bantams!
The ones that are still running are the good uns, and when you get a good un, they are among the best. Another mate has a 980cc overbored A65 thunderbolt which would give quite a few modern sportsbikes a run for their money!
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It is easy to knock the products of an almost bankrupt British motorcycle industry made during the late sixties and early seventies because some of it was crap due to no development and very little quality control. What is the excuse for the Japanes motorcycle industry producing unreliable bikes in the seventies? That pinacle of reliabilty, Honda, made bikes for a long time with self-destucting cam chains. It is only recently that the bike industry as a whole started producing reliable bikes. ____________________ Previous: Suzuki GT125, Honda C50, Honda C90, Suzuki GS125, Yamaha XJ600N, Triumph 955i Sprint ST, Triumph 955i Speed Triple, Triumph 955i Tiger, Triumph 955i Sprint ST
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 20 years, 281 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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