tell me about ducati 916's

[MaybeGuy]

as titled. specifically late 90s ones as im considering buying one and cant find out much about them.
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Blue_SV650S wrote: it was a sh1te wheelie, but it proves that he can get it up in 3rd and can do angles. In summery, mattsprattuk is a gobby little sh1tebag, dopehead tw4t, but sadly for all of us, he probably isn't THAT full of sh1te!!
Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith

[pinkyfloyd]

Try this

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bikereviews/searchresults/Bike-Reviews/Ducati/Ducati-996998-Biposto-1998-2003-/
Mentiones 916 - 998 so not sure if its a review of all 3 bikes or a generic one of the breed
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Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.

[garth]

If what you like about the R6 is the power delivery and quick steering, the 916 is the complete opposite.
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[Howling TerrorOutOfOffice]

More reviews.
https://www.ducatisti.co.uk/forum/ducati-916/2220-ducati-916-bike-reviews-owners-register.html

As usual take with pinch of salt and then try one if possible.

Pat
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[pinkyfloyd]

[rac3r]

At a random guess probably something you won't like much
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[MaybeGuy]

well i'm mainly after a sportsbike that's not your usual, with the handling of an R6 but similar (i know it wont be that close) to my KTM 520.

not to be used as a wheelie weapon or anything. maybe a track tool. i'm after something with a bit more torque because i wouldnt mind attempting a bit of corner drifting, which is easy ish on my ktm, but the R6 wasnt really that keen.
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Blue_SV650S wrote: it was a sh1te wheelie, but it proves that he can get it up in 3rd and can do angles. In summery, mattsprattuk is a gobby little sh1tebag, dopehead tw4t, but sadly for all of us, he probably isn't THAT full of sh1te!!
Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith

[pinkyfloyd]

[MaybeGuy]

[rac3r]

I don't think ducs take wheelies too well, it will feel slower to turn than the R6. Look for rocker problems and electrics I think
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[mr.kris]

better off with a SP1-2 maybe a TL1000S with sorted springs 97 SV modles of TL make more power i billive!
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[pinkyfloyd]

I find getting the wheel up on the VTR is way easier than it was on the GSXR I ran about on..... Both completely accidental of course. But it happens.
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illuminateTHEmind wrote: I am just more evolved than most of you guys... this allows me to pick of things quickly which would have normally taken the common man years to master
Hockeystorm65:.well there are childish arguments...there are very childish arguments.....there are really stupid childish arguments and now there are......Pinkfloyd arguments!
Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.

[MaybeGuy]

i'm sure its easy on both.
remember i seem to be the only person in the world that can clutch up an r6 in 3rd and went to court for overtaking an unmarked police car on 1 wheel on my ktm

i dont want to destroy an engine though, so would feel much better about abusing an il4
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Blue_SV650S wrote: it was a sh1te wheelie, but it proves that he can get it up in 3rd and can do angles. In summery, mattsprattuk is a gobby little sh1tebag, dopehead tw4t, but sadly for all of us, he probably isn't THAT full of sh1te!!
Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith

[pinkyfloyd]

Every time I have had the wheel up I have done it accidently. I will figure out the secret to getting the wheel up deliberatly but saving that for when I'm more used to the bigger bikes.

But I do see what your getting at. I wouldnt want to do that to a Duke. They cost too much to fix.

What you will have to bear in mind though. Getting back on topic. Is no matter what you go for. With the different set up it will feel a bit gutless in comparison to the R6. My VTR feels a bit less powerfull than the GSXR750 even though the engine is bigger. You got to be prepared for that.
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illuminateTHEmind wrote: I am just more evolved than most of you guys... this allows me to pick of things quickly which would have normally taken the common man years to master
Hockeystorm65:.well there are childish arguments...there are very childish arguments.....there are really stupid childish arguments and now there are......Pinkfloyd arguments!
Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.

[MaybeGuy]

yeah, im prepared for that. i know it wont have the same power delivery or anything, it'll be pretty linear power, but will pull from lower down, and chances are they'll be a cunt to ride at slow speeds.

i just want lots of noise and a rattly clutch
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Blue_SV650S wrote: it was a sh1te wheelie, but it proves that he can get it up in 3rd and can do angles. In summery, mattsprattuk is a gobby little sh1tebag, dopehead tw4t, but sadly for all of us, he probably isn't THAT full of sh1te!!
Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith

[Ed Case]

The most beautiful bike ever created but potentially a stupendous wallet emptier. Spares prices out of a telephone book and the bloke who 'knows' doesn't come cheap either. Jap bikes will run forever on regular oil changes and minimal servicing, Wop bikes wont.

[pinkyfloyd]

I dont know. Mine is great to ride at slow speeds. The GSXR hated town riding. 3rd gear and 3K revs was 30mph and the bike just wanted to go. Second gear was a little better but the after market exhaust attracted way too many stares as it screamed past. With the twin though she'll happily sit at 3k revs in 2nd gear doing 30.

One of the big changes going from the inline 4 to the twin was the power delivery in mid range. Twist the throttle on the GSXR and you feel the bike lurch forward like someones shoved it from the back. Twist the throttle in any gear and your off like a tart on a greased pole without noticing it. Its only when you glance down and realise your doing 80 and still going where not a second ago you were doing half that without changing gear. Added to the clatter of the twin rattling under you it just brings a smile. Does make the lack of top end grunt bearable.

Where my GSXR was all about high revs and engine screaming the VTR is all about midrange and sounds like thunder going up the roads.

Given the choice the V Twin wins every time....And I have the choice as the GSXR is parked outside still.

Shame you werent closer or I would let you have a hammer around on it for an hour or so. I know its a different beast than the Duke your after but it will give you an idea of the Twin engine rather than the Inline 4
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illuminateTHEmind wrote: I am just more evolved than most of you guys... this allows me to pick of things quickly which would have normally taken the common man years to master
Hockeystorm65:.well there are childish arguments...there are very childish arguments.....there are really stupid childish arguments and now there are......Pinkfloyd arguments!
Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.

[MaybeGuy]

i've ridden a 2008 848, and a few other twins, but i was more after model specific information, things to look out for etc.

i'm guessing its carbs and has the desmo valve system?

i've probably owned and ridden near enough every type of bike going, so i'm not going to be that suprised at the power delivery.
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Blue_SV650S wrote: it was a sh1te wheelie, but it proves that he can get it up in 3rd and can do angles. In summery, mattsprattuk is a gobby little sh1tebag, dopehead tw4t, but sadly for all of us, he probably isn't THAT full of sh1te!!
Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith

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[pinkyfloyd]

[G]

Welcome to have a play on my GSXR1000; but when I get it back, I won't be down this way for long.

In my experience, a lot of it is related to what the bike's designed for - for instance a sports twin or sports 600 4 cylinder tend to be a bit lumpy low down as they're pushing for peak power.
An SV650 intended for commuting feels smoother low down, though partly that's due to relatively lower gearing.
Often you get considerably nicer 'town manners' from the same basic engine in a town bike because they've re/detuned it to work better in that situation.

[pinkyfloyd]

[rac3r]

Desmo yes, carbed yes (I think), lumpy low down yes. As said above flaking rockers and electrics to look out for and I think the 916 etc series need serving more often, including the belts.

Newer Ducs are much better with longer intervals and being cheaper to service so I would be looking at a 749/999 as they have the Testastretta engine which is pretty solid
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[rac3r]

[MaybeGuy]

that's mainly why i was wanting to go with an older one with simpler electrics and none of these immobiliser bullshit devices.

i dont think a 950 would be up my street to be honest. i'm after a sportsbike. also, much as i'll probably get grilled for it, i see no need for a bike like that which cant go offroad (unless you mean the adventure).
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Blue_SV650S wrote: it was a sh1te wheelie, but it proves that he can get it up in 3rd and can do angles. In summery, mattsprattuk is a gobby little sh1tebag, dopehead tw4t, but sadly for all of us, he probably isn't THAT full of sh1te!!
Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith