Ripoff UK - Parts

[Livefast123]

I hate the UK and it's overinflated capitalist prices

If I want to buy a right footpeg hanger for my Comet GT 250 from somewhere in the UK the price is £66 minimum.

If I order it from a dealer in Korea or America then including delivery it comes out at £48 after travelling half way across the world

What is going on!!
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[N cee thirty]

everyones out to make a living,too bad they think its fair to add 40% extra on or whatever it is

breakers/ebay ftw
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[Livefast123]

I would expect dealers to have parts for the bikes they sell

Forgot to mention the air filter that UK dealers want £40 for but again from the USA works out at £25.

I'm all for people making a living etc but that is different from charging double the price. Import duty if it gets charged is a small amount to the savings that are possible.

I've always found that stuff gets here faster than with the Royal Snail
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[Kickstart]

Hi

All of those things could apply to a US dealer.

All the best

Keith
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[Livefast123]

Exactly Keith

I think that I will email the said dealers to see what their response is. I would love to give them my business and support UK dealers but with the current financial climate the lowest bidder wins
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[Itchy]

THe overinflated prices are because of the overinflated cost of living in the UK. Due to a function of land control and taxes.

Which means what you see as profit is just the gross figure. Net out all the overheads of living in the UK and the margin is quite low.

It is like petrol, petrol is dirt cheap, it is the taxes which make it expensive.

Consider two identical products, I dunno lets say a big mac, since it contains labour to make it, materials to construct it and energy to cook it.

In the UK your big mac contains - corporation tax, EErs NIC, EEs NIC, Income tax, VAT, business rates, climate change levy etc and lots of other taxes.

Now compare to Korea where they pay 12% income tax, no NIC 0-10% VAT. Thus stuff ends up being cheaper.

The problem is you get a magification effect too! Because in the UK when you buy the beef to make your burger and the bread the supplier is faced with these overheads too. Which amplifies the cost even more. Evey step in the supply chain is hammered with the above taxes. Which is what makes things so expensive in the UK.
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[Livefast123]

Indeed, ripped off at every level!
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[Itchy]

[N cee thirty]

lmao itchy having a dig at keith again
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[craigT19]

Buying some cheap as chips korean bike then crying about the parts not being that easy to get makes me lol

Bike dealers gotta make a living, people cry there prices are high then cry when theres no dealers in there area cos they have gone out of buisiness. Your probably buying it at the same price as the dealer by the time youve put £10 import duty on it your £48 part is now £58 and your crying over £8-£10 the dealer put on it. Maybe when the thing breaks down you can send it to korea to get fixed?
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[yandy_yay]

[Livefast123]

[pits]

It's called the exchange rate and importing.

Example I product I used to import for resale from America was £50 in America when the exchange rate was good it would cost me £75 to get it to the UK, now the exchange rate is utter shit, that same product costs me £92 to import and I have to sell for £120.


With your Korean parts, they will be cheap parts, made by cheap labour sold for cheap and will last like a cheap part, buy cheap buy twice, simple as that.

And stop complaining about someone making a profit, you're probably the same type of person who would complain there are no bike shops left as they all closed down due to not making any money.

Personally I prefer supporting the local economy and spending that bit extra, at least I can take it back and speak to someone face to face if it goes wrong.

[Rogerborg]

Hey, Korean hataz, can you list the 2011 model motorcycles that are made in Japan and Germany, using Japanese and German manufactured parts? Go on, that should be funny.

Anyway, the reason you're getting stung for Comet 250 parts is quite simple: there's not many of them over here, so there's not enough demand to drive a competitive market. Monopolies always price gouge.

There's not really much you can do about that other than to encourage more people to buy them. It's not helped by the peanut gallery slagging off quite decent Korean bikes just as their grandads slagged off "Jap Crap" in the 60's.

[craigT19]

Your possibly right but i think your find that in the 60's the "jap crap" was actually very good, definetly better than the british bikes available at the time. 99% of the new wave of korean/chinese bikes are poor duplicates of japanese bikes made from substandard parts costing peanuts and only bought by anybody because they are cheap.

People buy them for pence and then bitch when they dont last as long as anything with honda written on it, oh but then they keep telling themselves "but..but it uses a honda engine" in most cases even this is wrong they use japanese crankcasses full of poorly made engine internals.

Granted there are good ones i wont deny this and tbh given a choice i would go korean over chinese anyday, but to hint that the koreans are going to do to the japs what the japs did to the british bikes is laughable at most. The japs took pre existing british bikes and made them better, faster, more reliable.
All the chinese and koreans have done thus far is poorly copy japanese bikes and bang them out as cheaply as possible.
Theres a saying you get nouthing for nouthing if your buying cheap, your getting cheap.
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[McJamweasel]

Craig, whilst I do agree with your evaluation of the current Chinese bikes I do think you're wrong to write them off completely. It will only be a few years until they sort out their quality issues, then they can start to work on the performance side of things. When that happens all the current manufacturers will need to worry.
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[Livefast123]

I don't think you quite digested the thread properly and just wanted to spew propaganda about non Japanese bikes.

I have not claimed once that the bike is superior to Japanese technology, is going to take over the world or last for the next 30 years and 1,000,000 miles.

I have been there with a Japanese sports bike and matching leathers What i need at the moment is a reliable, cheap, fuel efficient commuter which the bike excels at. It started every morning in -10 temps to take me to work. The only reason it is broken is because it binned it on some ice and the only parts that need replacing are ones that would be damaged on any bike in an off.

What this thread is about is rip off UK and the prices of common parts that can be sourced much more cost effectively abroad.
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[Livefast123]

[tommybhoy]

I use a guy just outside glasgow call Robert at 3motorcycle breaker.I have bought parts of him in the past for pennies.

he has hundreds of bikes ,just phone him on 01292471016
and ask.And he only adds a couple of pound for P&P.

Let us know how you got on
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[craigT19]

Im not writing them off entirely entirely mate, like i said there are good ones, i believe theres a 650 hyunsung which is supposed to be good? And i had a sym for a while (dunno where thats from) which was bloody good.

I just get the bitching regarding markups, theres plenty of stuff on ebay for just about anything but it seems people dislike the 40% mark up thats been suggested, i suspect the footrest was originally made for £1 and was then sold on to the dealer for £40 so yes they do make it up but there markup is small potatoes compared to the original maker of the part. Nobody says sod all when they buy a £199 tv tumble drier from currys and then complains about the price of parts for it.

Currently for the most part chinese bikes are considered by the trade to be white goods, you buy it cheap ride it till it dies then buy another one.

But to get back on topic, yes ultimately its down to the price of living here i had to forget about a pay rise for 5 years because the dealer i was working in had to lower labour rates, and yet people still bloody mowned, i expect most of these people will hate that there gas and electric bills are so high?? Do they think shops etc dont have gas bills?
Yes we do get ripped off for some things in comparison to other contrys but there are worse.
Quick comparrison
2010 R6 rrp here £9124
Rrp in holland €13000
at todays exchange rate thats About £11000

So yes we are more expensive that some... But we are also cheaper than others
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[Livefast123]

I've got the 250 Hyosung Comet GT which in my opinion is a bloody good bike for the £600 notes i gave for it. When it dies I'll have a look on the bay again for another bargain

I would normally buy parts from the bay but there wasn't anything available. Sods law

I see your side of the coin too and people have to make a living.
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[Ed Case]

On the subject of 'rip-offs' I went into Amazon for a CD, their price £11.99, alternative supplier £3.99, ordered the cheap one (obviously)..........came from Changi Cargoport, Singapore. As a matter of interest the supplier was Currys/P C World !. You tell me ?.