Mod 1 gone bye bye?

[carlosthejack...]

According to the MCN, Mod 1, the off road portion of the bike test is to be scrapped and replaced with a single on-road test by the end of next year. That's that then, I'm buying a 125, and fucking around on that until the single test becomes available. Fuck doing Mod 1 again.

And it means there can me more test centres and I won't have to go all the way to bleedin' Rotherham either! Result.

But what a waste of £77m. I could've had some of that...
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[N cee thirty]

meh mod 1's easy,just a pain in the a hole having to ride 30 miles to do it
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[Paxovasa]

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[carlosthejack...]

[whitedevil]

heh, i was 10mph over the 31mph on both my maneuvers and still found it a piece of piss.

[tvr321]

Welcome to EU bureaucracy

[Rogerborg]

What's your excuse? You were riding a shagged out wreck that shouldn't be on the road, or you couldn't handle the complex task of twisting the throttle?

It seems to me that Mod 1 did a pretty good job of weeding out the people that shouldn't be riding solo yet. Have a special Christmas gift - my first ever

[N cee thirty]

[rob_scott92]

[Asharin]

[Rogerborg]

[Glenben92]

[carlosthejack...]

[Teflon-Mike]

[Rogerborg]

Mmm, fair points. I'd have been hacked off too if I'd not made the 50kph due to bad conditions. Mod 1 is actually great if you've got a local centre and are sitting on your own 125 so there's no extra costs, but I do tend to forget that's a minority position - most candidates are paying through the nose to fail on someone else's bike.

retracted - I do sympathise with your plight, I'd just really rather that we didn't have yet another drop off in candidates now that the end of Mod 1 is in sight. I'm not sure the industry can really take many more kicks up the tailpipe.

[Glenben92]

own bike or not, costly or not, you should be able to do it in order to receive a license IMO.

"I'm sorry I killed your child ma'am, but at least I didn't have to re-take my mod1 eh, few extra quid in my pocket... tenner settle it between us?"

somehow i can't see that working
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[psychofox]

I don't see what the big celebration is on this subject. You still have to do your manoeuvres (emergency stop, turn in the road) but now they have to be on the road instead of on a nice deserted piece of tarmac. The only real up-side is that there's now no swerve to do.

I think having it as two test, while more expensive, takes some of the pressure off. I know some people on here have talked about getting the mod 1 out of the way so they can just concentrate on the easier mod 2 test. Now you will face one hard test, instead of 2 easier ones.

[Rogerborg]

Sure, it's swings and roundabouts. On the bright side, Royston Vaseyites won't have to ride an hour to get to an Mod 1 centre if there's a Local Examiner For Local People nearby, plus naturally cautious(*) candidates won't get shafted over 1kph in the swerve and stop.

(*) Limp wristed nancy boys and feeble pathetic girls(**)

(**) The kind who take everything personally.
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[621andy]

As someone who has gone through the whole system in the last 12 months, I can't really see why anyone be against Mod1.

I started riding bikes when I was 17, with no training whatsoever, and am surprised I survived to be honest

The CBT and Mod 1 appears to be a logical progression before presenting yourself for the 'real' test.

If you can't pass Mod1, then as someone else pointed out, you really shouldn't be on the road. There is nothing difficult or out of the ordinary in it. OK, it's all a bit artificial to ensure it all fits into their patch of tarmac, but the tasks you're given all relate to real world riding.

I got up to speed on a shagged out old CG, with my fat arse on it, so I can't see how anyone can make a fuss about not reaching 50km/h.
It's all about technique.

You'll never ride on a better road surface than on the test area, and if you have problems on that, then god halp ya on the crappy UK roads!

I hadn't been on a bike for around 15 years when I started the process last march, but managed to do theory,CBT, and Mod 1 in 3 days(on both 125 and 500)so if you set your mind to it, and have the right attitude, then you'll sail through.


And as for you all moaning about having to travelmto get to a test centre; Well I drove over from Germany to do my training!! Twice in fact, as I couldn't get a Mod 2 date before I started my next job, and had to come over in october to do Mod2...

Get some decent training, and you won't have any problems at all...fuck me, if I can do it, anyone can

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[Rogerborg]

I'm in favour of Mod 1, but it demonstrably put a lot of people off getting into biking.

Anyway, following review, the latest DSA position is that they may trial sending examiners out to training centres to do a slow speed test there, prior to the on-road. Sort of a Mod 0.75.

Whatever they go with, I just hope that it's perceived as being easier, so we get more candidates coming through.
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[N cee thirty]

i've been telling a few of my mates that its just going to be a harder cbt in the hope of getting them to be bothered to doing it when it comes around.

to much hassle atm having to go here there and everywhere and them trying to catch you out at every givern opportunity
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[MinhDinh]

I enjoyed learning the mod one IMO. It allowed me plenty of time to adjust from my RS125 to the ER6N.

It was certainly nerve racking being watched so closely.

Pushing the bike backwards from one box to another and stuff or doing cones and hoping not to drop any was good fun. The figure 8 was pretty good too, and the U turn! The swerve wasn't really hard for me on a big bike, but practicing it helped a lot with thorottle control, I was told to drop the revs after always and put the front wheel in the box at the end, so it did teach me precision control and braking.

The main thing was not ever forgetting your shoulder checks in the mod 1, but that gets you prepared to do it all the time on the mod 2!

I guess having one test again makes things easier in some ways, I mean the swerve test has caught a fair few people out! Not sure if the random U turn during the route is a confidence booster or not? I guess if you don't fuck that up then it is all good, but if you do then ouch!
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[blurredman]

I understand completely the Idea of MOD1.

But the fact that it is so strict is very demoralising. Heck the Italian's version of MOD1 just consists of a turn, a slalomn and 1 figure of eight. How are they allowed to do just that, when we- technically governed by the same dictatorship that is the EU that is meant to make us all under the same umbrella, have a different set of rules!?!

That's the point about EU rules, they are not fair, not safety conscious, they are only there to gain more and more money. Take these new driving licences- every decade you have to renew? WTF That is exactly why my dad decides to keep his licence from 1977. He sees no point in the card and no point in paying more money for something which he has effectivly paid more than it's worth in the first place.











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[carlosthejack...]

I'm right, you're right, we're all right. I've rebooked Mod1. I can't wait for the government/europe to make its mind up, I want to be fully passed before this summer. Who was I kidding? It's on again. Thanks for the motivation.
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