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Hetzer
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Question. Reply with quote
Is something becoming not anything (yet)?
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: 13:53 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Yes.


Like what? Please give an example.
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Re: Question. Reply with quote
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Is something becoming not anything (yet)?


Just bear with me on this one......... Embarassed

If 'not anything' = nothing..........

........the question becomes "is something becoming nothing (yet)?"

I reckon it's a maybe or a depends! Confused

Thanks for that, please carry on................. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Re: Question. Reply with quote
Tonka wrote:
Hetzer wrote:
Is something becoming not anything (yet)?


Just bear with me on this one......... Embarassed

If 'not anything' = nothing..........

........the question becomes "is something becoming nothing (yet)?"

I reckon it's a maybe or a depends! Confused

Thanks for that, please carry on................. Thumbs Up


But is there anything that can be legitimately described as "not anything"?
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
No, it is always something and is never nothing
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Re: Question. Reply with quote
Hetzer wrote:
But is there anything that can be legitimately described as "not anything"?


I have a feeling that it will depend on your definition of 'legitimately not anything'. Legitimate being physical and tangible, metaphorical and psychological, both or perhaps none of the above? Confused

If you're talking physics then I think that the answer will be no. If we get into the "cerebral" then I think that there might be scope for maybe!
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Re: Question. Reply with quote
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But is there anything that can be legitimately described as "not anything"?


No, because the very fact of it being 'anything' means it is no longer 'not anything'.

It boils down to the difference between thinking of nothing and not thinking. It is not possible to think of nothing, because by thinking of nothing you are actually thinking of something. It is only possible to have a clear and empty mental state by not thinking.
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Cool, that's 'infinity' done away with then. Thumbs Up Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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"Ask again later".

Er...go fuck yourself.
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Cool, that's 'infinity' done away with then. Thumbs Up Very Happy


Quite!! Confused

The best you can say is AFAIK nothing doesn't exist, as at this moment in time it cannot be proven to exist with the skills and tools we currently have at our disposal. It does not however, mean that nothing cannot exist.

Like I said 'maybe' Confused

Hahaha!! Eight ball said a definitive YES!! Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Tonka wrote:
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Cool, that's 'infinity' done away with then. Thumbs Up Very Happy


Quite!! Confused

The best you can say is AFAIK nothing doesn't exist, as at this moment in time it cannot be proven to exist with the skills and tools we currently have at our disposal. It does not however, mean that nothing cannot exist.

Like I said 'maybe' Confused

Hahaha!! Eight ball said a definitive YES!! Mr. Green


I think it's important to distinguish between a localised 'nothing' and a global one. Obviously there can never have been a global nothing, otherwise we wouldn't be here. A localized one though...I guess even the space in a perfect vacuum could be said to contain 'dark matter' or something equally esoteric.
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PostPosted: 15:05 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Obviously there can never have been a global nothing, otherwise we wouldn't be here....


Shocked Obviously, eh? Oh, this is a much bigger can of worms!! Mr. Green

Are we really "here" then? Confused
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Depends on what you see as "nothing".

I see "nothing" as something that doesn't need to be exact to definition to be able to use the word. I won't make sure there isn't a single molecule left in my cup before I say "There is nothing in my cup".

More psychobabble from Hetzer. Shocked.
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Paulington wrote:

More psychobabble from Hetzer. Shocked.


I think he's started on the drugs early today.

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PostPosted: 15:14 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Tonka wrote:
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Obviously there can never have been a global nothing, otherwise we wouldn't be here....


Shocked Obviously, eh? Oh, this is a much bigger can of worms!! Mr. Green

Are we really "here" then? Confused


I think, therefore I am. That's me sorted then, can't be 100% sure about anyone else.

"Nothing" means nothing, doesn't it? Or are we talking about an impure concept here?

Going off track anyway, I was going after infinity. Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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"Nothing" means nothing, doesn't it? Or are we talking about an impure concept here?


It was your question, so I rather made the assumption that it would naturally be an impure concept!! Confused Given that the definition of something cannot really be itself, I think that "nothing means nothing" as a statement is flawed! However, I'd take a guess that if you keep going into 2011 as you are exiting 2010, the answer is probably!!

https://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr344/Tonkatoo_2008/Emoticons/burp1-1.gif............Happy New Year!! Mr. Green


.......bloody hell, hurry back Noriko!! Wink
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PostPosted: 15:49 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Tonka wrote:
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"Nothing" means nothing, doesn't it? Or are we talking about an impure concept here?


It was your question, so I rather made the assumption that it would naturally be an impure concept!! Confused Given that the definition of something cannot really be itself, I think that "nothing means nothing" as a statement is flawed! However, I'd take a guess that if you keep going into 2011 as you are exiting 2010, the answer is probably!!

https://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr344/Tonkatoo_2008/Emoticons/burp1-1.gif............Happy New Year!! Mr. Green


.......bloody hell, hurry back Noriko!! Wink


Ok, the definition of nothing is the absense of anything. Wink

New year's eve, I'd forgotten. Bollocks, I'll be here on my own. Oh well, business as usual then. Laughing
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I dont understand the question.
Can you ask it again in a different way and with pictures please.
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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PostPosted: 16:12 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Something is not nothing.
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
stinkwheel wrote:
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

Shocked whaaa ? Shocked

You utter bast*rds .... the lot of you.
Now I am going to enter 2011 convinced I am as thick as pigsh*t.
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