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PostPosted: 19:34 - 07 Jan 2011    Post subject: Any thoughts on the Gilera Apache? Reply with quote

Seen one for sale quite cheaply and I'm looking for a basic bike I can take trail riding. It's a 2002 model and seems to be in good nick, just wondered if anyone has owned one previously? Only a 125cc so not sure if it'll be much cop on the rough stuff, but I need something pretty light - I've got less muscle than an insolvent fishmonger.




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PostPosted: 20:35 - 07 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

The Apache is an early 1990s Gilera (from before Piaggio closing the Gilera factory). Might be an old stock one registered in 2002 though.

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 07 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aha, thank you very much. That would explain why I could only find reviews for early 90s models. So, anyone got any comments on an Apache from the 1990s? Or any similar 125cc bike used for greenlaning?
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 07 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Spares will likely be a problem. They were never officially imported and being ~16 years old there probably isn't a big supply of bits left. Might be worth having a word with Bob Wright (Gilera spares specialist) to see what is and isn't available.

For green laning it could be a pain it a minor part being damaged left the bike unusable for ages.

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 07 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
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Spares will likely be a problem. They were never officially imported and being ~16 years old there probably isn't a big supply of bits left. Might be worth having a word with Bob Wright (Gilera spares specialist) to see what is and isn't available.

For green laning it could be a pain it a minor part being damaged left the bike unusable for ages.

All the best

Keith

Thanks, this is the bike. I don't know if you can tell much more from the advert than me. I've just seen it so don't have a chance to go and view it but at that price (and depending on the seller's response to a query about tax and MOT) I'm willing to take a chance, as long as there are no major generic problems with this model.

I will mainly be using it to get an introduction to offroad riding. I have an NC24 for getting about on but really want to start greenlaning, and apart from maybe 10 hours total on a dirtbike when I was eight or nine, I've no experience offroad.

I've tried to get some insurance quotes but the Apache model doesn't show up on Carole Nash or CompareTheMarket - I don't know if there's anywhere I should try particularly?
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 07 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Think with the bodywork and with the close mudguard I suspect it would be a poor choice for green laning. Especially with what I suspect it a fairly peaky power delivery.

I can't find the details (I have a workshop manual somewhere, but it is in Italian) though to check the tyre sizes and the like.

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 07 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

100% buy it your going to have a grin from ear to ear when you in the power band. +2 the front sproket for more slow speed lane riding and much better top end on the road.
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 07 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah they sold some new unregistered Apache's back in 02/03, as i nearly brought one for £1700 myself.

The engine is the same Gilera 125cc lump with a Powervalve as the Sports bikes, like the GFR etc, and my favourite 125cc bike possibly of all is very similar to the Apache, but it's a supermotard style machine called the Freestyle. I think it's possibly better looking than the Cagiva Supercity or KTM Sting, so it has to be a looker!
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PostPosted: 00:38 - 08 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers fellas, what sort of insurance prices were you looking at (and with what sorts of license/no claims)?
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 08 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of expensive (and hard to source as pointed out) will break the first time you lob it on a lane - and you will do, many, many times. Get something without the top fairing; a 125 will be fine, but I'd recommend a two stroke if you go for a smaller capacity machine.

Basically, get a DT.
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