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Auzfest
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 09 Jan 2011    Post subject: Quote for new chain and sprockets,ripp off? Reply with quote

Got a quote the other day for new chain and sprockets, is he trying to ripp me off or do you thing the pricing is reasonable? The bike is a yamaha xt 125. The price includes 2.5 hours labour at 35pound an hour and new brake fluid and rear calliper clean plus vat at 17.50 percent also it's a did chain. Full total came to 231.95
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 09 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Total rip off IMO.

You could buy a C&S set and a decent tool for all future changes for less than that. It's not a difficult job nor is the caliper strip and clean.

Plus you have the added bonus of saving money, learning something about your bike and knowing it's been done right.

If you get stuck doing it you can always find help on here.
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 09 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

What is their labour rate? It will likely be at least £40 an hour plus vat (now 20%), so 2.5 hours is at least £120.

Quick look on the B&C web site and they list an O ring kit for ~£70.

If labour is £50 an hour then that pretty much adds up with the C&S to what you have been quoted.

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PostPosted: 20:18 - 09 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

OUCH ! Rolling Eyes Do it yourself & save about £150 Neutral
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 09 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah the bike trade struggles a bit in winter.
Did you take it to a Honda dealer?, If so it sounds about right.
Sorry to do this to you pal but in my opinion that's an hours labour to change the chain and sprockets. You could have done the other work yourself.
Chain and sprockets are ok to do your self too as long as you have a centre stand or another person to hold the bike up on it's side stand.
Just buy the workshop manual for the bike, the instructions are very good.

So anyway it looks like they found extra work to add on a couple of hours to stretch things out, and look at the price of chains and sprockets for your bike.

https://www.google.co.uk/products?q=new+chain+and+sprockets+for+xt125&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=HhgqTZHPFcfBhAeqwIGAAg&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=title&resnum=3&ved=0CEEQrQQwAg

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PostPosted: 20:41 - 09 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im gonna attempt it myself then i think. Iv done most jobs myself but im still learning. The work seams daunting untill you actually attempt it. For example i changed my front brake light switch today and i was suprised how simple use job was (putting my boots on in the morning is more of a job) . I was quoted 70pound for that job and it cost me 5.50 today and taken me 2 minutes with no use of tools
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 09 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chain & sprocket kit can be obtained for around £60 and changing them is one of the simplist and most satisfying jobs for a novice to complete. You may need to purchase a chain splitting tool too as the new chain will in most likelihood need shortening. This tool should cost less than £10 and will last you a lifetime.
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 09 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Thinker wrote:
Yeah the bike trade struggles a bit in winter.
Did you take it to a Honda dealer?, If so it sounds about right.
Sorry to do this to you pal but in my opinion that's an hours labour to change the chain and sprockets. You could have done the other work yourself.
Chain and sprockets are ok to do your self too as long as you have a centre stand or another person to hold the bike up on it's side stand.
Just buy the workshop manual for the bike, the instructions are very good.

So anyway it looks like they found extra work to add on a couple of hours to stretch things out, and look at the price of chains and sprockets for your bike.

https://www.google.co.uk/products?q=new+chain+and+sprockets+for+xt125&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=HhgqTZHPFcfBhAeqwIGAAg&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=title&resnum=3&ved=0CEEQrQQwAg

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I live 2 mins from a honda garage and i avoid it like the plague . The place i took the bike was recommended by my local riding school. mate cheers for the link. Can't believe how cheap the job will be if i do it myself.
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 09 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL.
Just make sure you tighten the nuts in a diagonal fashion a bit at a time till they are all tight when fitting the sprockets.
Like I said it is really worth buying the work shop manual.

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PostPosted: 22:22 - 09 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
Ive just done mine , it was my first time, and apart from my cheese bolt it was very easy, i just bought new bolts. I even removed and painted swingarm as well. Do it yourself m8 , good experience.
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 09 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do it yourself and get some man points.
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PostPosted: 00:00 - 10 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

And another garage loses a customer, presumably for life. You wonder how some of these places stay in business.

Oh, that's right: they don't.
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PostPosted: 01:19 - 10 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just done my sprocket and chain the other day and was surprised at how easy it was.... most difficult part was getting the bike onto axle stands since the paddock stand wouldn't fit under the exhaust.

all in took about an hour... one piece of advice though... when you are taking the old chain off... hook the new one on and use the old one to pull it through... I only thought about that one after I took the old one off Confused

As for the calliper... take the pads out and give it a damn good spray with WD40 and get into it with a toothbrush, (although don't quote me on that one)
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PostPosted: 06:38 - 10 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure about your bike, but probably worth losening the front sprocket nut before you split the old chain. I forgot to do this last time and it made the job more difficult than it should have been.
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PostPosted: 07:18 - 10 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

C&S was one of the first major jobs I did on my bike (YBR). Wasn't hard. The satisfaction you get from knowing how much you save in labour is unbeatable (maybe by sex, just). Get the Haynes for your XT - it's the same book that covers the YBR and YBR Custom as well. With brakes though, if you're not so confident, I wouldn't touch them because if you do something wrong on such an essential component for your safety.... Still a straightforward job to strip and clean the single pot back callipers on these bikes (think the XT front is 2 pot?). You just need new seals and fluid. Haynes is handy to show you what's involved in a job which can help you decide if you want to attempt it.
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PostPosted: 07:22 - 10 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

andym wrote:
As for the calliper... take the pads out and give it a damn good spray with WD40 and get into it with a toothbrush, (although don't quote me on that one)


Not sure I'd recommend WD40 or anything that leaves oily residue behind around brakes. Brake cleaner is cheap enough, or even a bit of washing up liquid in hot water. A toothpick to go around the seal grooves is also worthwhile because a lot of crud builds up there. You can also buy those ultrasonic jewellery cleaners and put the calliper in, but that means getting it completely off the bike, including taking the brake hose off. Someone on here has got great results with that.
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PostPosted: 08:43 - 10 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

XT125 chain and sprocket kit is £20 trade, £35 retail ( plus VAT )
Triple s heavy duty chain and JT sprockets.



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PostPosted: 13:28 - 10 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=190550&highlight=ybr125


Easy job,while you're at it check out your brake shoes & drum,here's a link to some pics i took when i did mine.
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 10 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The XT has a disc brake on the back. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:49 - 10 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

use brake cleaner for cleaning up the calipers and junk.

WD-40 is fine (some seals swell with this) but you must not get it on the pads and wipe all the excess off the calipers. Then clean hands and re-fit the pads.
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