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yuri2085
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 10 Jan 2011    Post subject: For Hetzer Reply with quote
https://www.channel4.com/programmes/distraction/4od#2920266
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silky666
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 10 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
They seem like a fine group of individuals.
I especially like that Kelly and her party trick Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 10 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Perfect.
Absolutely perfect.
Says it all.
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PostPosted: 00:59 - 11 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wonderful specimens we've got there.
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PostPosted: 07:32 - 11 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
OK, so now I've watched it, I'm speechless..... god, people are crap aren't they?
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PostPosted: 09:17 - 11 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
HMOG. Shocked
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Tig
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 11 Jan 2011    Post subject: Talking of the police Reply with quote
Talking of the police.... just happened to turn radio 4 on and today's programme in the Book of the Week series is about the origins of the police force in Britain - some may find it interesting perhaps?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00x8hl2

""The Invention of Murder" explores the Victorian fascination with deadly violence by relating some of the century's most gripping and gruesome cases and the ways in which they were commercially exploited.

Despite rising crime figures - and increasingly crowded cities - the public were reluctant to accept the establishment of an organised police force. This episode examines the reasons for that unwillingness and offers a fascinating insight into the origins of modern policing."
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 11 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Watched 5 minutes and pretty much sums up why Jimmy Carr is an unfunny pointless human being, someone I would quite happily smash in the face and then teabag him, for being such a cunt.
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 11 Jan 2011    Post subject: Re: Talking of the police Reply with quote
Tig wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00x8hl2

Cue Hetzer.
Its interesting ..... having listened to 3 years of Hetzers foaming at the mouth rants.... that the fears and issues they talk of are exactly what he gripes about.

Quick summary of the first 5 minutes:

- Public reluctant to accept an organised police force.
- 'Police' in France were looked on as nothing but 'a nest of paid and corrupt govemental spies'.
- Concerns that it would destroy civil liberties
- Seen as expensive, tyranical and foreign.
- Public would rather 'be robbed by 'fate / fortune' than by the government'.

- Robert Peel (then home secretary) got the police in by using political influence and skill .. despite no clear evidence of a feared rise in crime.
In fact the stats were 'massaged' to show increase in crime.

- Middle classes accepted it .. But the working classes did not.
It took working class pastimes and turned them into criminal activites (sunday drinking and dog fighting etc.)

- Of the initial 2800 Police ... 2230 were dismissed at some point, most for drunkingness.
- Public very much against it all.
- The police 'abuse' of then has so many paralells with what we see today.
ie: deaths in custody ... people being killed in street for minor crime
.... goverment findings coming to conclusions that reject police criticisms and yet go against public opinion.


A good listen actually.
Blame the French Smile
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 11 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lets not forget the bit about the ancient public being keener to be robbed by a man in need, than employ at great expense via taxes men to enforce the law.
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Tig
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 14 Jan 2011    Post subject: Re: Talking of the police Reply with quote
silky666 wrote:
Tig wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00x8hl2

Quick summary of the first 5 minutes

- Robert Peel (then home secretary) got the police in by using political influence and skill .. despite no clear evidence of a feared rise in crime,


According to the prog there was the perception of an increase in crime and Robert Peel used this perception to promote his end (ie bring in a police force).

A politician using public perception to promote their own ends??? War, ID cards etc etc. Surely not?!

Some things never change ..... Evil or Very Mad Sad
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