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ba
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 16 Jan 2011    Post subject: Can someone help me identify this cable locking thing please Reply with quote

So some guy came over and tried to fix my bike....i need to get these red connection things off and onto something else, can anyone help me by telling me how to get them off? Thanks.
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 16 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cut them off!

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PostPosted: 17:21 - 16 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cut the wire behind them. If the guy working on your bike didn't know that I suggest you get someone else to fix you bike.
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 16 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need them though.. as it basically connects up my igniton...as i have bought a new ignition and need those connectors on the new one... i really need these off and onto the new wires as i just passed my A2 and am sick of waiting to get this bike otr.
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PostPosted: 17:29 - 16 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

They are just cheap crimp on bullet connectors. Pretty much any motor factors will sell them.

All the best

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PostPosted: 17:32 - 16 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
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They are just cheap crimp on bullet connectors. Pretty much any motor factors will sell them.

All the best

Keith


nice one thanks. I'll have to go buy some in the morning.
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PostPosted: 17:33 - 16 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are bullet connectors. To be honest they are not really reusable as they are crimped onto the wire to keep them in place, and this distorts the ends. They're not very expensive anyway.

Go to a local hardware store and get yourself these:

https://i7.ebayimg.com/06/i/001/12/6a/0dd6_1.GIF?set_id=800005007

And some of these:

https://cdn.ecolightled.com/images/uploads/bullet_connectors_male_red_150.jpg

With those wire stripper things you can strip the insulation from the wire, then you slide the new bullet connector on and to secure it to the end of the wire you use the end of those pliers (it is colour coded so you know which bit to use) and squash the red bit flat.
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 16 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your going to do it, do it properly and get a proper tool for crimping them. Those cheap ones are total shit, not worth the £5. You'll just end up with dodgy connectors; The wires will pull out of the bullet connectors easier than the bullet connectors come apart.

Something like these;
https://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb248/kojaycat/Rachet.jpg
(Found here https://www.kojaycat.com/crimping%20tools.htm)

If you don't want to spend that much, I'd suggest trying to borrow some, or getting a local garage that has the tools to do it. My friend has a pair, and they are infinitely better than the cheapo £5 tools.
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PostPosted: 19:03 - 16 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Definately agree with the above. The ratchet crimping pliers are far more useful and not that expensive.

Suspect having those connectors on the ignition switch suggests the bike has had a theft attempt in the past.

All the best

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PostPosted: 19:07 - 16 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If a job's worth doing, might as well do it properly. The last thing you want is to rewire it, only to have intermittent problems with your ignition. It could cut out any time, any where. On a busy dual carriageway, on a motorway slip road, during an overtake, on a dark country lane... All would be highly inconvienient, and possibly catastrophic.

This place also sells alot of useful stuff, and from what I see on Google is relatively well reputed.
https://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/VWP-onlinestore/home/homepage.php
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 16 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I agree with the sentiment, personally I've never had any wires pull out of the connectors when using a pair of these. Having better crimps just makes it easier.
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 16 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah im getting the local garage to do it... it needs mot too. also it hasnt been stolen the guy who came over tried to get the 2 green connectors apart but they had been so hot at some point they had stuck together. Im'a take it up in the van and see whats going down...needs a new innertube and these electrics fixed then its MOT. goodbye money! But thanks for all the tips. I've decided i dont want no dodgey job done so ill get it done in town.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 16 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You aren't far from me mate, I'm in Elveden, if you need a hand I can do my best (Y) got a big box of those type of connectors if you want me to come sort it out, I'm off work tomorrow and tuesday Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 16 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

.h

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PostPosted: 20:12 - 16 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Billing wrote:
You aren't far from me mate, I'm in Elveden, if you need a hand I can do my best (Y) got a big box of those type of connectors if you want me to come sort it out, I'm off work tomorrow and tuesday Thumbs Up


yeah man that would be sick if you would. Basically what happend to the bike is...it was working then...in my garage just cut out. And nothing since... ive got school but i have a free first so until half 11 or free after school at about half 4.....but my garage has poor old lighting!

actually im done at school from 11:10 on tuesday if you wanna come over then. whenevers cool mate. ill pay you for ya time.
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 16 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just want my bike otr. Due to bad weather my test was cancelled from the start of november to 2 days ago when i passed. Really want my gsx-s cobra on the road, really dont care what it costs anymore :p wish i knew anything about electricals Sad
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 16 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bluex5 has hit the nail on the head, crimp connecters are pure crap, especially on a bike. They corrode like there's no tomorrow, they are far from secure and could well fail at 70 on a dual carriageway, at night! OEM is the way to go. Borrow a soldering iron if you don't have one and do the job properly. Insulated crimp connectors are bodgers territory. Another source for OEM style is www.vehicleproducts.co.uk
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 16 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with BlueX5.

Those ebay ones are extortionate though.

You'll get fifty of them for £6.28 (+VAT) from vehicle wiring products.

The MP71 crimping die they do is fine for small jobs.

Alternatively, a 4-way multiconnector block like it had originally.

£2.50 delivered off ebay

Needs the same crimping tool as the non-insulated terminals, ignore what it says on that ebay advert, it is wrong. The non-insulated crimping tool has a shaped die that curls the ends of the tags over properly.
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 17 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

ba wrote:
Billing wrote:
You aren't far from me mate, I'm in Elveden, if you need a hand I can do my best (Y) got a big box of those type of connectors if you want me to come sort it out, I'm off work tomorrow and tuesday Thumbs Up


yeah man that would be sick if you would. Basically what happend to the bike is...it was working then...in my garage just cut out. And nothing since... ive got school but i have a free first so until half 11 or free after school at about half 4.....but my garage has poor old lighting!

actually im done at school from 11:10 on tuesday if you wanna come over then. whenevers cool mate. ill pay you for ya time.


No worries, I have an exhaust to do tomorrow morning, but should get that done by 12, just pm me a postcode so I know where I'm going and I'll be over asap, you'll hear the bike turn up I expect Thumbs Up
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