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Resurrection
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Fuel leak Reply with quote

I have a kawasaki zx9r c1 which I basically haven't used since November. I've been starting it but not that frequent.

I've come to start it today and it went first hit with no choke. Gave it some throttle and it died. Went to start it again but nothing happened. I looked down and the floor is covered in petrol and the fuel pump is constantly priming. I had a look and it's absolutely streaming out of the ram air pipes at the front of the bike and a few other non specific seams around there. Now as I haven't time until weekend to strip the bike I can't tell exactly where it's coming from.

Any thoughts?
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

turn your fuel off before you store a bike away?
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

SWitch the fuel and then when the weekend comes you can sort I would have thought?
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure this is The Workshop, not the state the bleedin obvious!

I was more looking for opionions and thoughts as to why the fuel had overflown/backed up not ludicrous unhelpful statements.
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

it could of been that the fuel has gone staled and has jammed open the fuel valve inside the carbs, so rest of the fuel leaks in and over flows out of the overflow pipes, but could of been that your overflow pipes are missing and hence its flowing out of the ram air intakes
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possibly a float or needle valve stuck. Try giving each carb a sharp trap with the handle of a screwdriver.

Just note I said sharp TAP. Not beat the life out of it.

At worst you need to strip and clean the carbs. Fit an inline fuel filter.
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

cb1rocket wrote:
it could of been that the fuel has gone staled and has jammed open the fuel valve inside the carbs, so rest of the fuel leaks in and over flows out of the overflow pipes, but could of been that your overflow pipes are missing and hence its flowing out of the ram air intakes


Possibly some varnish but that only tends to build up when the fuel evaporates. Missing overflow pipes shouldn't make the slightest bit of difference. The bowl is flooding and the fuel is going up the needle jet then running out the lowest point.
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes ok, but surely you would have done that and said you have done it then we would know and give the next step in options to take in solving your problem. And you werent sure where it was coming from and would have more time at the weekend to look further.

Im sorry if the answer to question was useless but I thought it was appropriate answer to give as I thought you would like a stop to the problem temporally till the weekend.

I do apologise
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the assumption this is a carbed bike, not fuel injection. I agree with Marki. Classic symptoms of a stuck open float valve. Repeated sharp taps to the side of the float bowls with a bit of wood/screwdriver handle usually shakes them loose again.
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guessed it was carbed when he mentioned the choke. Is there a fuel injection bike with a manual choke? Confused
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was hoping it would be something and nothing. I've got the day off tomorrow so I'll just attack it then. I've had probs with it sticking open before. How will I know when it's unstuck? Or will I have to start it and see if it's still streaming out?
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing I forgot to mention in the OP is that it's not leaking fuel while the ignition is off it only starts once you hit the starter button. I don't know if this makes a difference but thought it worth a mention.

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PostPosted: 23:25 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Splits in the pipes?
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Umm, on my bike the fuel pump primes for just a couple of seconds, if that. Any more and I'm guessing there is something wrong. Can't think of another way to see if its sorted without at least some strip down.


Not recommended but I would personally stick a big tray under the bike to catch the fuel so I can pour it back in afterwards. That way I can tap away at the carbs until the pump stops priming or I get bored. Any contamination of this petrol will be cleaned by the new in line filter you've fitted Wink

Just be careful that the fuel isn't filling up the cylinder.
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

split in fuel pipes wont leak out from ram air
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Ichy
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Resurrection wrote:
One thing I forgot to mention in the OP is that it's not leaking fuel while the ignition is off it only starts once you hit the starter button. I don't know if this makes a difference but thought it worth a mention.

Cheers.


That's because you have a fuel pump. Nothing is getting pushed through with the ignition off. Ignition on and the pump primes the carbs. If the needle valve doesn't close then no back pressure is generated to stop the pump, it thinks that the carbs still need fuel to fill them up. This will continue until it runs out of fuel, or the ignition is turned off.

If you remove the air box to see into the venturi of the carb then it should be fairly easy to see which ones are causing the problem.
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