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PostPosted: 18:58 - 19 Jan 2011    Post subject: tyre fitting Reply with quote

how easy would it be to fit your own tyres as i dont want to pay the £60 honda want to fit them so is it easy to get the old tyre off the rim and the new 1 on ?
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PostPosted: 19:03 - 19 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

At first it can be a bit of a ball ache, but once you do a few you soon get quicker at it. get some rim protectors and tyre levers off ebay and away you go. You can also buy some wheel weights and either make your own balancer or buy one for about £50 quid but i tend not to bother balancing, it's over rated IMO and i've never had a problem by not doing it, it also saves you taking a chunk of paint off when it comes to removing them Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 19 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The increasingly wide low profile rear tyres are getting difficult for me to do but haven't been beat yet.
Breaking the bead is the hardest partt when you have only a couple of inches of sidewall to work on.

Agree about forgetting the balancing, unless you knock the already fitted weights off it's unlikely to need doing anyway.
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 19 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just whip the wheels off myself in the garage then take the wheels down to tyre place who will generally charge between £10-£20 for a pair of tyres replaced including balancing.
Quick, cheap and easy.
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G
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 19 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

£5 each at the local place I used to take them to for fitting to loose wheels.
I do trail ones myself; tried to break the bead on a 190 section tyre on the zx9 and entirely failed (including using a bike side stand to the point on of the wheels was off the ground!)
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 19 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trail tyres are easy enough, tubeless are a bit of a pain, especially wide ones. And you really need a compressor to pop it onto the bead.

Tyre levers are cheap, and you can even buy a bead breaker for not a lot of money. But in the meantime, a bit of bodgery can break the bead, like G said, using a bike stand, or a spade.

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Des
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 19 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

salty21 wrote:
At first it can be a bit of a ball ache, but once you do a few you soon get quicker at it. get some rim protectors and tyre levers off ebay and away you go. You can also buy some wheel weights and either make your own balancer or buy one for about £50 quid but i tend not to bother balancing, it's over rated IMO and i've never had a problem by not doing it, it also saves you taking a chunk of paint off when it comes to removing them Laughing


I pretty much agree with this, I have been changing my own tyres for a while now and it gets easier.

Here is a guide to get you going.

https://www.clarity.net/~adam/tire-changing-doc.html
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Des
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 19 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazdaman wrote:
Trail tyres are easy enough, tubeless are a bit of a pain, especially wide ones. And you really need a compressor to pop it onto the bead.

Tyre levers are cheap, and you can even buy a bead breaker for not a lot of money. But in the meantime, a bit of bodgery can break the bead, like G said, using a bike stand, or a spade.

Gaz


Garden spade is my weapon of choice for bead breaking too. I did a tyre last weekend and it was a bugger to break - but a squirt of WD40 did the trick.
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 19 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't need a compressor, a double barrel pump and a inner valve core remover is all you need! Thumbs Up

A spade will break the bead, some soapy water, two good leavers and some slitted garden hose (as rim protectors) - and some brute force/technique is all you need! Smile

Technique is a large part of ease to get off/on the rim and to inflate.
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Des
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 19 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blue_SV650S wrote:
You don't need a compressor, a double barrel pump and a inner valve core remover is all you need! Thumbs Up



I agree, again this is what I use.

The rear on my FireBlade is a 180/55/17 and it's not that bad to change.
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G
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 19 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blue_SV650S wrote:

A spade will break the bead

Tried that on the zx9 too. Probably provided some entertainment for the neighbours as I pogo'd my not inconsiderable bulk about trying to bounce up and down on this tyre. Didn't help.

I've had some really tough ones on smaller bikes, but a vice has usually sorted it.
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 19 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

i uesd to use a spade and do it like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXEMGn1F8_Y
now i made up one like this although mines made of steel much safer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztYmUgGBObk&feature=related
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 19 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something of this sort of design is pretty cheap, and I suspect effective.

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Kart-Tyre-Bead-Breaker-Removal-Tool-Go-Kart-/140444089965?pt=UK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Other_Vehicle_Parts_Accessories_ET&hash=item20b31ebe6d#ht_961wt_905

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Des
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PostPosted: 17:36 - 20 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Blue_SV650S wrote:

A spade will break the bead

Tried that on the zx9 too. Probably provided some entertainment for the neighbours as I pogo'd my not inconsiderable bulk about trying to bounce up and down on this tyre. Didn't help.

I've had some really tough ones on smaller bikes, but a vice has usually sorted it.


The tyre I changed last was the toughest one so far - it wouldn't budge and I weigh 17st! But after a squirt of WD-40 it was easy.
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