Bike alarms and other security

[mealies]

I'm hopefully picking up a 2008 CG125 tomorrow. I am hunting around for the best insurance quote and they are all asking what security the bike has.

I know the bike doesn't have an alarm fitted currently, so is it worth fitting one to the bike seeing as it will cost 15%+ bike value for the alarm and fitting?

As regards to other security, I will be using a ground anchor with chain when it is parked at the house. What security would you recommend for commuting (the bike will just be left in street parking bays in C. London)?

Andrew

[Paxovasa]

A big fuckoff chain for when parking in London. You can get a disc lock with an alarm fitted for when you park the bike at home.
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Suzuki GSF600 K3 (in the fastest colour, black).

[mealies]

cool, sounds good to me.

Andrew

[Paxovasa]

When at home, will the bike be parked off the road?
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Suzuki GSF600 K3 (in the fastest colour, black).

[mealies]

yeah, the bike will be parked at the back of the property

Andrew

[Paxovasa]

If you have a aldi close to you then this may be of interest too you:

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=212607

I don't know how good they are.
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Suzuki GSF600 K3 (in the fastest colour, black).

[pits]

Have you tried insurance quotes with and without security?
RS125 with £30 disck lock and £50 chain and lock was £80 expenditure £357 fully comp
RS125 without the £80 security £352.

Security is sometimes not worth it if you are looking for a cheaper premium, but otherwise as said, big fuck off chain if parking in London.

and I never liked the idea of a ground anchor using a chain, as it would be quite easy to get the chain tight then try and crop it

[Paxovasa]

[pinkyfloyd]

[Paxovasa]

At least my bikes need security, you could leave the keys in yours and still no one would take them
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Suzuki GSF600 K3 (in the fastest colour, black).

[pinkyfloyd]

[pits]

To be fair Pax, he has a point, that pad lock wouldn't last 30 seconds against a decent of bolt cutters, neither would the chain by the looks of things, so not much of a deterrent but on a more serious point, look at how dirty your bike is on the left, you're like some filth wizard, give it a clean

This is the best security for your bike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDrzMGdYWZc

[mealies]

cheers for the responses.

i have just tried a quote without specifying any security and tbh it was the same so not going to bother specifying anything. will invest in disk lock + very big chain instead

since there is an aldi on the way home, will pop in and see if they have on those disk locks in stock. better than nothing for the moment

Andrew

[Paxovasa]

[Parp]

All chains can be cut with either a Stihl saw or long handled bolt cutters where you can rest one end on the ground.

I went for a Mortax Chromo chain and disc lock, which at £40 was the cheapest I could find on the Thatcham list and it combines a chain with a disc lock.

I also got a cover, which helps and that came with a free Thatcham rated disc lock, £40 again for both.

The aim is to make people move on to a nearby bike that has less security

[pinkyfloyd]

[Paxovasa]

[Parp]

Picked up my bike yesterday and took it to where I am keeping it for the next while, to find that neither lock with integral disc lock or the actual disc lock i got fit through the disc. The holes in the disc are too small. Back to the dealers on Monday, where hopefully a U lock which is Thatham rated will solve the problem.

[SirEdward]

As for alarms there's the Scorpio i900 with tilt/motion/contact sensors and an immobilizer. The newer i1100 has all of the above plus a GPS tracking chip - the data can be accessed on an iPhone or a laptop via their app.

The GPS tracking costs 7 (?) GBP monthly, though if I recall correctly you get 6-12 (?) months free with the purchase of the alarm itself.

EDIT: Both versions have a two-way pager that informs you when at least 1 of the sensors is triggered; the RFID range is unlimited AFAIK.
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[Aivaras55]

Hello,

What chain you would recommend for 125cc? I keep my motorbike near my door into my bedroom(yes outside door is near my bed). So I thought about disc lock with alarm. Could you recommend anything up to 20pounds?
What about https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALARM-DISC-DISK-LOCK-DISCLOCK-MOTORCYCLE-MOTORBIKE-/220577449145?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item335b70c4b9#ht_2540wt_1139 ?

I fear that 10seconds is not enough is there like 20 seconds alarm?

[Piercee100]

Wish I had disks to put a disk lock on I just use an Oxford HD chain and lock which cost £30 and was on the Insurer's list of approved security. I also use a steering lock which is standard fitted on my ancient Honda but I'm sure they wouldnt last long if someone wanted the bike. I keep my bike in a garage fitted with two deadbolts in each bottom corner and a hefty padlock on the top middle.

I would say anything is better than nothing and it depends on where your going to keep it- out of view is always best.

[Aivaras55]

So I guess you have usual security gear. You're right out of view is the best security. However sometimes you have to leave your bike in a visible place like near uni.

I can keep my bike near a door or near the road. But if I keep it near the door I can't use chain. So I guess I'll buy that alarm disc lock and keep my bike near my front door. And I'll use chain + alarm when I leave it near uni