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-Nick-B-
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Extreme Noob, Advice Please?! Reply with quote

Hey, i'm Nick and new to the forum Smile

I'm 22 and have been 'into' bikes for a while but only now do i feel ready to actually go get my licence.

I'm looking at doing the Direct Access as i'm over the age of 21.
I'd just like to ask if its necessary to have my own bike and gear (helmet, clothing etc) to do the test?

Are these provided?

Also would it be a good idea to start off on a 125 bike for 6 months/a year before riding a bigger bike?

Like the title suggests i am a bit of a noob Cool
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello and welcome.

If you are serious about biking, you might aswell go and get bike gear.
Most riding schools will provide helmet and gloves (hi zviz) but not all have boots.

Since you are over 21 just do the DAS, you can do either a 3 or 5 day course.

The first day you spend doing the CBT.

If you do go down the DAS route you will need to do your theory before you are able to book your practical parts of the test.
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the quick reply,
I do think a 5 day DAS course is the best option.

I will start looking into buying gear, are there any good websites for these types of things?
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Paxo man said. Most places supply gloves and lids but the best thing would be buy your own gear. At least then you know where they've been. Laughing

If your wanting to do your DAS Then get your theory booked asap and get that passed before you start the course. You'll find plenty of theory test revision info online including test papers.

No need to buy a 125 bike if your doing DAS. The school supplies the bigger bike and when you pass you can ride what ever size you want.
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

To do your das you will have to be on a 500cc bike , so id go for the same sort of bike once you past your test, as you will hate riding a 125 after taking your test on a 500.
Usual newbie 500's that sell well are :
Kawasaki ER5
Suzuki GS500
Honda CB500
Kawasaki GPZ500



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PostPosted: 13:43 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Nick-B- wrote:
Thanks for the quick reply,
I do think a 5 day DAS course is the best option.

I will start looking into buying gear, are there any good websites for these types of things?


With helmets every manufacture's sizes are different, if you try on a helmet that you like and it is a perfect fit either buy it or search for the exact model on line.

Cloths are different as you know what size you are, also remember that sometime the boot are on the small size.

Best it to try stuff in a shop, then buy it online.
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Nick-B- wrote:
Thanks for the quick reply,
I do think a 5 day DAS course is the best option.

I will start looking into buying gear, are there any good websites for these types of things?


Personally I wouldn't go to a website I'd go into a shop to get the gear, just to make sure it fits perfectly. Especially for a helmet, you have to make sure that fits perfectly.
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Edit: Damnit Paxo beat me!
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PostPosted: 13:53 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again for the replies guys.

On second thoughts i do think buying gear in store is a better option.

@Jamie S - Yea i have been looking at the Kawasaki ER5 Wink
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Nick-B- wrote:
Thanks again for the replies guys.

On second thoughts i do think buying gear in store is a better option.

@Jamie S - Yea i have been looking at the Kawasaki ER5 Wink


What sort of total would you have set aside for bike+insurance Nick?
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Nick-B- wrote:

On second thoughts i do think buying gear in store is a better option.


Nothing the matter with buying online, just make sure everythig fits first Thumbs Up

I bought my current helmet (lid) online after trying it on in a shop, and I saved £65. Wink
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slacker24seven wrote:
-Nick-B- wrote:
Thanks again for the replies guys.

On second thoughts i do think buying gear in store is a better option.

@Jamie S - Yea i have been looking at the Kawasaki ER5 Wink


What sort of total would you have set aside for bike+insurance Nick?


For my first bike i was thinking around £3,000-£4,000.
i haven't looked into insurance, or how much that will set me back Confused
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

For insurance, pick a couple of the bikes you're thinking of and try the comparison websites, only takes a few minutes, less if you're just changing the bike from a previous quote
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

CptBlack wrote:
For insurance, pick a couple of the bikes you're thinking of and try the comparison websites, only takes a few minutes, less if you're just changing the bike from a previous quote


...and these are only guidelines. Your actual quotes by ringing up will be much better than that.

For that sort of money you could get a nice secondhand ER6 rather than an ER5... Wink theres all sorts of middleweights out there that won't bite your face off so don't worry about having a 125 after DAS!
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea i have also been looking at secondhand 650 bandit's Smile
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Nick-B- wrote:
Yea i have also been looking at secondhand 650 bandit's Smile


Go for the 600, the 650 is built by pedro the goat herder Wink
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suggest you go and find yourself a Hein Gericke shop, explain that you are new to biking and looking for some standard kit. They will be able to explain the ins and outs of each item. And why you need them etc. Thumbs Up

If you want further help from this forum, at the top there is a button called search, if you post your topic LOADS of stuff will come up, you might get overloaded with information, hence me suggesting you walk into a shop and ask for help direct and in person.
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paxovasa wrote:
I bought my current helmet (lid) online after trying it on in a shop, and I saved £65. Wink


I'd offer them the opportunity to sell it to you at their internet price, or even pay a small (not £65!) premium since we do want to keep bricks-and-mortar bike shops open.

Helmet fit is critical, but for initial jacket, trousers, boots and gloves, I'd suggest hitting up eBay. See if you can find some used textiles - there are plenty of "worn once, realised I'm a fat git" bargains, or you could try something like this set.

And I would definitely recommend getting a jacket with some inherent visibility aids - like the RST Enduro in orange or yellow - rather than getting a separate hi vis vest that you'll soon 'forget' to wear.

But before you do anything else, do a CBT. You may love it, or it may not be at all what you expect.
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Paxovasa wrote:
I bought my current helmet (lid) online after trying it on in a shop, and I saved £65. Wink


I'd offer them the opportunity to sell it to you at their internet price, or even pay a small (not £65!) premium since we do want to keep bricks-and-mortar bike shops open.


I didn't buy it of the shop I tired it on in. I did ask what their bottom price was, then knocked £15 off the price.

I got the same lid for £55 less than their price, but delivery cost me £9.99.
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

my advice get a 125 i did and am now ready to do my direct access in march Smile
the road time has help loads with getting used to other drivers handling a bike safely ect


(edit) PS

also i wouldnt touch an er 5 for the money you can get a far better bike my mats one is nippy and everything but the build quality leave a lot to be desired im not saying its mechanically bad just lacks the finnish of the gpz 500 or the reliability of the honda cb 500

just my opinion mate
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

fireyphoenix1989 wrote:
my advice get a 125 i did and am now ready to do my direct access in march Smile
the road time has help loads with getting used to other drivers handling a bike safely ect


How many hours of riding constant riding do you think you have had after buying the 125 and before you took your test

Not having a go at you, as I went for 1 2hr lesson a week and then took my test.

But if you think about 6/7 hours a day on the bike over 4 days. That is alot of time in the saddle.
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paxovasa wrote:


Not having a go at you, as I went for 1 2hr lesson a week and then took my test.

But if you think about 6/7 hours a day on the bike over 4 days. That is alot of time in the saddle.


in the few months i have had the bike ???
200+ easy as when i got the bike i was out 5/6 hours a day Smile for the first month.
was gonna do what you did but my instructer is close friends with my uncle and both said as it was close to winter it was better to get a 125 to start with. to be honest im glad they did as doing my first winter on a bigger bike is not something i like the sound of ....especially as i had a drop on ice ....i learned a hell of a lot that no amount of lessons could have taught me


OP all things aside just get out and do it if you talk to much will likely make yourself nervous Smile hope to see you on the road some day just remember to nod Very Happy
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