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Lupine Lacuna
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: So tomorrow I am putting a deposit down on a bike. Reply with quote

Its used.

What should I try to be negotiating into the package, and what tips do you recommend?

Its already £1700 below list. Ex Demo £5000.

WIll I get the price any lower and what shold be chucked in?
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You dirty bastard.

Oh, wait, you mean a monetary deposit.

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PostPosted: 21:47 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Re: So tomorrow I am putting a deposit down on a bike. Reply with quote

Lupine Lacuna wrote:
Its used.

What should I try to be negotiating into the package, and what tips do you recommend?

Its already £1700 below list. Ex Demo £5000.

WIll I get the price any lower and what shold be chucked in?


From a dealer, you want a warranty and at least the first service. Try and get some extra stuff thrown into the deal, such as disc lock or gloves.

You should barter before agreeing on a deal Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erm, what is it? How many miles? Condition? Year? Size of dealer?

Then we can help you bud;)
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Started getting worried in case someone takes the bike before me! Smile

Its a 2010 Transalp, 257 miles on it. Dealer is a main Honda one.
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks like a fair price, but bear in mind that new bike sales are in freefall at the moment, so they'll be keen to shift it.
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
That looks like a fair price, but bear in mind that new bike sales are in freefall at the moment, so they'll be keen to shift it.


That doesn't affect their stand in value though, it does sound like you could haggle a bit more but if you have agreed a deal already? ... don't know what else you would receive. If they have no money left in the deal then gear is your best bet, gloves boots and leather goodies being prime for it, good retail mark-up. Warranty is a great shout try and get it to a full two years again.

Good luck and enjoy the bike Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have a part ex? If not you'll be in a better position. How much they'll drop is dependant on how much they have in the bike. They may be able to drop £500, they might not be able to budge an inch.
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO you should ask for a fair few things.

Ask for warranty.
Ask for a free service.
Ask for a free datatool alarm fitted.
Ask for a good chain, clock and disc lock.
Ask for a free seat cowl.
Ask for some free gear.

Ask for the price to be dropped by another 300 quid.
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

MinhDinh wrote:
IMO you should ask for a fair few things.

Ask for warranty.
Ask for a free service.
Ask for a free datatool alarm fitted.
Ask for a good chain, clock and disc lock.
Ask for a free seat cowl.
Ask for some free gear.

Ask for the price to be dropped by another 300 quid.


And how much of that do you think he'll get?
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks so far.

Will I be in a weaker position as I'm potentially going to secure finance?

The only downside, which I might try and negotiate with is lack of ABS, which I wanted...

No trade in as this is my first bike. Smile
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flip wrote:
MinhDinh wrote:
IMO you should ask for a fair few things.

Ask for warranty.
Ask for a free service.
Ask for a free datatool alarm fitted.
Ask for a good chain, clock and disc lock.
Ask for a free seat cowl.
Ask for some free gear.

Ask for the price to be dropped by another 300 quid.


And how much of that do you think he'll get?


Depends how much he wants the bike. Walk away and see if you get to the door.
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks so far.

Will I be in a weaker position as I'm potentially going to secure finance?

The only downside, which I might try and negotiate with is lack of ABS, which I wanted...

No trade in as this is my first bike. Smile
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flip wrote:
MinhDinh wrote:
IMO you should ask for a fair few things.

Ask for warranty.
Ask for a free service.
Ask for a free datatool alarm fitted.
Ask for a good chain, clock and disc lock.
Ask for a free seat cowl.
Ask for some free gear.

Ask for the price to be dropped by another 300 quid.


And how much of that do you think he'll get?


Warranty.
Service.
Maybe a cheap chain.
Maybe an alarm. i.e. Meta.
Maybe some free gear.

I know when I looked at new R6's a few years ago, they offered a lot of free gear, apprently 1.5K worth (But costs them less of course), and I asked for a Datatool and they said yes.

The rest was with it anyway, but I didn't ask for a chain.

If you do not ask, you do not get.

Finance doesn't mean anything negative, they get the money and a new customer for potential parts and servicing.

5K is less than a R6 new back then still, but it's still money to a bike company, especially when cash flow is important at this time of the year. So losing out on stuff that costs them a lot less than the retail may be worth their while. Even spending time fitting an alarm since it's not so busy this time of the year.
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also I amhaving to negotiate this over the phone... so I will want free delivery too, but can't imagine walk away works that well, ptting they phone down does it?

Did that to a prick from george whites the other day that said 'Hornets' are a pile of crap and that ABS is shit.
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have only experience ABS once on a ER6N when I did my test. Yes it did not lock up, but it took longer to stop, which gave me a minor on my mod 1. Infact I had trouble braking in a short distance throughout my practice of mod 1 which my instructor said it's the ABS.

I do not know if it works well on other bikes, but I don't mind locking up or juddering my Ninja 636, it's like a woman who pinches you to keep you aware of what you are doing.

Delivery is another matter. You will not get that for free.
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