On the same level : A Drivers video

[flamegrape]

Good morning people ~

I was wondering if anybody could assist me?

When the better weather arrives, I'm doing some vlogs and one in particular I'm doing is a short video called "On the same level". It's a video aimed at DRIVERS, not bikers, explaining the tips/tricks of bikers; that is:

why they occasionally ride on the wrong side of the road.

why they position themselves near that white line, middle or left of the lane.

the difference between the following distance and the overtake distance.

explaining filtering (with rider-eye footage).

how to spot a bike approaching from the rear.

why a biker needs space on the road.

explain the acceleration power in a bike and why their position should be checked and double checked carefully before a manoeuvre.

why riders 'hang off' their bikes when cornering.

etc... etc.

I was looking for any tips, guides, advice or information from other bikers (and drivers!!) that I can include in the video. It will contain footage from a car and from on-board bike cams and give facts and figures relating to KSI's etc.

If you think this is a cack idea, please don't rip it apart, my aim is simply - with the biking season approaching - to give car drivers an "insight" if you like to the training riders have had, and to give them an actual visual rider eye view, hopefully to help them understand more, how to drive safe, letting bikers ride safe so we're all on the same level when it comes to safety and understanding.

If the video gives even a SMALL amount of information to drivers, something they simply may not have considered before, making riders safer this season, then personally, I think it's a worth while project.

Thanks peoples!!
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[fiveus]

Sounds like a top idea

[Benson_JV]

Indeed, a grand idea squire. I wish you the best of luck.
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[chillyman0]

I was actually thinking to myself the other day 'why has nobody done this before?' They may well have done but i certainly havent seen it!

Cant wait to cast my eye over it!
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[mistergixer]

It's a nice idea, but is it really aimed at the right people?

Here's my thoughts - the kind of people who are aware of (and 'considerate' to) bikes do not need the education, the people who are unaware/unknowledgeable about bikes are the kind of people who will maintain the same viewpoint regardless of education.

It's why i question the whole 'think bike' sticker thing - those people who need to be (more) aware of bikes are the kind of people who will be oblivious to the stickers in the first place!
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[MarkJ]

[Ol]

Assume you'll be getting it yourself, but if you need any footage, i've got a load of video's of my rides (mostly commuting) with some showing good examples of tit's in either 4x4's or BMW's pulling out on me, swerving into the middle of the road to stop me filtering and general sh1te driving that causes hazards - will take a little while to dig out as they're on an old laptop HDD, but if you want any give me a shout!
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[flamegrape]

Thank you!

I see your point regarding this - to me it's all well and good seeing the "THINK BIKE, THINK BIKER" on stickers and motorway matrix boards - and I agree to an extent but what I hope to do it give the information so when they see a bike, they'll maybe have retained some of it and know the craic.

Before I started riding, I was a big mile-clocker in cars and I looked at bikes as pushy and forcing their way through traffic, when I started reading more and learning more before deciding on learning to ride, I understood that what they were doing was legal, non-aggressive and I was more understanding.

Oh BTW, I got one of those stickers!!
If you want one, get it free here: https://bit.ly/fXBv0I

Thanks for your input guys!
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[t121anf]

can you explain to me as a car driver and bike rider why i would be riding on the wrong side of the road?

and again why i should be hanging off my bike on the road

what do you consider overtaking distance? on the police course i took they never suggested i be up the bum of cars infront for an overtake, they suggested once in the oncoming traffic (when clear of course) to hammer it and use the bikes power to get past then pull back in

whilst i like the concept, i think some areas seem flawed.

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[Rogerborg]

If you want cagers to pay attention to it, get some of that totty in your avatar to ride the bike.

First, it would make both blokes and wimmin more likely to watch, and secondly, White Knight Syndrome might actually make blokes care about her, or women viewers might sync their menstrual cycles or whatever it is they do when they get together.

Heh, menstrualcycling.
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[bazza]

I don't understand this "wrong" side of the road of which you speak. Do you mean the other side of the road? Provided it's clear, I'll use the whole width of the road as and when I need to, particularly when assessing an overtake. Moving 2m to the right on the road could allow me to see 100m further down the road before overtaking.
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[Dave McCool]

This does sound like a good idea, but sadly I suspect that's all it'll be.

Aside from all the differences in riding techniques, I think the biggest problem is going to be your target audience and how you're going to reach them.

The fact of the matter is, the inconsiderate, incompetent nobheads that you're trying to reach with this video are the absolute last people that will watch it.

When they get frustrated or annoyed by our antics, can you imagine them thinking 'well those actions have upset me, so what I'll do is go and search YouTube tonight to see whether someone has put their time and effort into making a video to explain what was happening there so that I can better understand their actions next time?'

No, me neither.

That said, it would be an interesting watch, I'm looking forward to seeing it, and I sincerely hope to be proven wrong.
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[Rogerborg]

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While it might not convince some of the people who already behave badly towards bikers as some have already said, there's still a chance that you can catch someone who hasn't fully formed their anti-bike opinion yet. Once they understand why bikers do certain things, it might prevent them from turning into fully fledged cocks in the future.

It's a good idea imo, good luck with it.

My only advice (aside from agreeing with Rogerborg about putting some decent totty in) is decide what is the most important stuff and explain that first, as a lot of people will probably watch the first 5-10 mins anyway.
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[owl10]

I like the concept.

Be careful not to alienate drivers though, For example - overtaking - you dont need to be up a cars ass to do it.

In fact, Personally I oft prefer to be a bit further back, the reason being I can see more, read the road better and anticipate the gaps before they appear - in doing so i can speed up just before th gaps appear closing the distance between me and the car in front, then use the gap when it does appear - Half the time they arent aware I was behind them beofre ive overtaken, which I like as it makes them more predictable whilst reducing the chance of them seeing me and doing something stupid.

I use this approach in the car as well - Ive lost count of the times I'll see a mediumly powerful car (or more) trying to overtake a lorry, sat so close to it by the time they realise there is a gap its closed again.

Of course thats my high horse approach when Im riding or driving smoothly / sensibly but 'making progress'

Other times I just hoon down the white line with oncoming traffic, but I doubt you'll be able to explain that one in a nice way....
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