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Blob
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 31 Jan 2011    Post subject: Bikes worth, and what to get next? Reply with quote

Hi all

I currently have a Honda XR 125L and i'm looking to sell as i want to get a better 125. I currently don't have the money to upgrade to a much larger bike and do A2 test (i'm 19) so guess im stuck with the old 125's

The Honda is a '03 plate and in pretty good condition. There is rust on parts of the frame which i will sand down, put rust prevention products on then give it a paint, also replacing my dodgy indicators and getting a new front left side fairing as this got damaged when i was involved in a hit and run (idiots)

Anyhow i can post pictures if people want to check it out as anyones opinion on its worth would be great

As i would sell this i need to start looking for a nice, but not too expensive 125

Not sure as to get a 2 stroke or a 4 stroke? My Honda is a 4 but i've heard that these low engined 2 stroke bikes can 'blow up' as such.

Would be nice to see what other people on here have (any sized bike) so post pictures up if you like Smile

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PostPosted: 14:37 - 31 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do your test on your XR, £15 for mod 1 and £75 for mod 2 > get new bike > be happy Thumbs Up

There are plenty of cheap to buy, cheap to insure big cc bikes out there; GPZ, SV, Bandit etc...It really isnt worth changing over to a 'better' 125
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 31 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Autotrader suggests you could possibly get around a grand for your XR.
Sell that, and with it you could probably do your test, get a bigger bike and be well on the way to affording insurance.

Edit: Whore my bike you say? Of course I shall oblige.
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 31 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed. You don't need any training to do a test, and the cost is less than what you'll spend getting a "better" 125 - whatever you mean by that.

Man up, get it done, and you'll have a lot more bikes available to you.

Also, be very careful about spending money on a bike you're planning to sell. You're unlikely to get back the full outlay back, once you've made it minimally roadworthy.
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 31 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Highside_Hilly wrote:
Do your test on your XR, £15 for mod 1 and £75 for mod 2 > get new bike > be happy Thumbs Up

There are plenty of cheap to buy, cheap to insure big cc bikes out there; GPZ, SV, Bandit etc...It really isnt worth changing over to a 'better' 125


This.

And since you opened the gates with a "show your bike" thread I'm going to do a Benson and whore away!

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And

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PostPosted: 15:50 - 31 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you buy another 4t 125 it will be a waste of money, only get a 2t if you are mechanically competent or know somebody that will help your out, 2t's can be just as reliable as 4t's if they are looked after. If you buy one that has been ragged it may go very wrong very quickly.
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PostPosted: 15:57 - 31 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do ya test then get one of these like i did Very Happy

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Blob
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 31 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Highside_Hilly wrote:
Do your test on your XR, £15 for mod 1 and £75 for mod 2 > get new bike > be happy Thumbs Up

There are plenty of cheap to buy, cheap to insure big cc bikes out there; GPZ, SV, Bandit etc...It really isnt worth changing over to a 'better' 125


I've enquired to a number of school but they all range between £400-£500 which i though was alot of money. Thats why i wasn't sure to do it or not.


Also nice bikes everyone, whats a good sized bike to get to progress from a 125? Or is any okay as 125 is the biggest bikes i've been on?

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PostPosted: 17:56 - 31 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rider Training on your own bike shouldn't be more than a couple of hundred quid. Ball-Park, £25 a two hour lesson, about half a dozen usually enough.
£4-500 is DAS money! Your talking to the wrong schools.
You make no sense what-so ever suggesting you cant afford a new bike, then suggesting you are going to flog your XR so you cant afford to buy something else?!?!?!
Just do it on the XR.... get it over and done with, and if you cant afford another bike, then live with the XR.. if you cant afford THAT theyn you really ought to question the economics of affording a bike at all!
After test, PLENTY of machines you could go for IF you want and IF you can afford them, and many of them re a hell of a lot better and often no more expensive than a 125.
As for whoring the bikes... well I' must be an ultra whore, mine have thier own pages on my webby! See sig!
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 31 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

WiTommo wrote:
Highside_Hilly wrote:
Do your test on your XR, £15 for mod 1 and £75 for mod 2 > get new bike > be happy Thumbs Up

There are plenty of cheap to buy, cheap to insure big cc bikes out there; GPZ, SV, Bandit etc...It really isnt worth changing over to a 'better' 125


I've enquired to a number of school but they all range between £400-£500 which i though was alot of money. Thats why i wasn't sure to do it or not.


Also nice bikes everyone, whats a good sized bike to get to progress from a 125? Or is any okay as 125 is the biggest bikes i've been on?

Will


If you book the tests via the DVLA website, without the training schools those are your costs. You shouldnt really need a lesson for MOD1 tbh if you've been riding beforehand. I did my MOD2 with 2 lessons, they cost £45 each with my bike for half a days tuition.

I gave a few examples of the popular first bikes, all of which are brilliant to learn on. Unfortunatley for us young'uns insurance will put an end to getting a sportsbike (r6, gixxer etc) So look at things like the GPZ500/600, SV650, Bandit, Fazers, Hornets etc etc loads of stuff to chose from!

Photo whoring? ooooh ok Very Happy
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Blob
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 31 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

So basically, these schools have been either trying to over charge me or getting course wrong.

So an A2 should only costs around £200?


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Unfortunatley for us young'uns insurance will put an end to getting a sportsbike


Yeah i heard the insurance on superbikes at my age is high!

I was looking at Bandits thought they were quite nice, good size and heard they run quite well too?
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 31 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

WiTommo wrote:
So basically, these schools have been either trying to over charge me or getting course wrong.

So an A2 should only costs around £200?


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Unfortunatley for us young'uns insurance will put an end to getting a sportsbike


Yeah i heard the insurance on superbikes at my age is high!

I was looking at Bandits thought they were quite nice, good size and heard they run quite well too?


I suspect the first, times are hard and they'll try to get you into the more expensive course. 1 - 2 lessons are fine if your a fairly confident rider, just to get any bad habits out the way and to refresh your memory - there isnt a great deal of stuff to learn for MOD 2 to be honest.

You should be able to get your licence for £200 - £250, yeah.

Can't comment on a Bandit as I've never owned one, sorry, although there seems to be a fair few advertised for a decent price ATM. Smile
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 31 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

watch a few vids on youtube for the mod1 and also download the coarse layout. All you need to be able to do is figure of 8, u-turn, slow riding (about 5mph) slight swerve round some cones and a controlled stop. all dead easy with a bit of practise in an emtpy carpark etc.

As for mod 2 it would probably be best to do a few 1 or 2 hour lessons to find out what you need to brush up on.
You will need to do the written test before you do the practical tests.
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PostPosted: 23:50 - 31 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't need to pay for any training. The DSA have plenty of videos on youtube about the tests, the Highway Code can be read for free online, and you can book it all via the DSA's web site.

£31 for theory, £15.50 for mod 1, £75 for mod 2. Just get it done.
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PostPosted: 06:40 - 01 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
You don't need to pay for any training. The DSA have plenty of videos on youtube about the tests, the Highway Code can be read for free online, and you can book it all via the DSA's web site.
£31 for theory, £15.50 for mod 1, £75 for mod 2. Just get it done.

No you dont NEED to pay for training, but for MOST its usually very worth while.
Going it alone, you learn the hard way, which can take a long time, and hurt. Also doesn't necesserily teach you how to do it 'right' or give you the helpful little 'hints' as to what test examiners are going to be looking for. Learning by doing, can work, but re-doing Tests at £75 a pop to find out how to do it can prove rather expensive. ONE re-test fee is three hours of road-training.
Two re-tests will cost you a full road training course with a 90% first time pass rate......
You don't NEED to have training....... but its the smart thing to do.
It gets you doing stuff 'right' from the start, gives you the inside line on how to pass a test, as well as how to ride safe, rather than finding out by falling off, AND long term can prove just as cheap if not cheaper.
Provided you get the right school, and the right course.
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 02 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, fair enough, some people learn better under instruction.

Alternatively, you can splash out £8.44 on a copy of Motorcycle Roadcraft.

Also, blagging an assessed IAM or RoSPA ride might help.
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 02 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The XR125 is a very capable bike. I had mine for just under 2 years and loved it. I sold it at 18 but that's not to say that it's a bad bike. It has its uses. In town I probably would choose it over my current steed. But when you look at trading it for another 125, don't bother.

Things are different these days, but I paid 160 including test fees for a 2 day intensive lesson and test back in 2005.
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 02 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Well, fair enough, some people learn better under instruction.

Alternatively, you can splash out £8.44 on a copy of Motorcycle Roadcraft.

Also, blagging an assessed IAM or RoSPA ride might help.


Yeah, you've mentioned that particular tomb a few times Roger....

You know, I could buy an awful lot of books about ballet..... read them, absorb them and try to uderstand them, but it wouldnt make me a dancer!

Motorcycling is a dynamic art, not a science, its all about feel, and there are NO prescriptions for how to do it, let alone how to do it well.

Road-craft, is a very good attempt at proceduralising riding and offering a 'prescription' on how to ride, but if you take it litterally you are missing the point.

Good start, but its an AWFUL long way from the be-all and end all of good riding....

Even its most ardent exponents struggle to 'prove' a lot of stuff is even practical, let alone the 'best' way to do something... like the cardinton clog dance at a set of traffic lights....

It worked for you Roger, because you an empirical accademic, you learn by reading, then prove or disprove what you read by trying it.

And you are a confirmed 'rebel' who doesn't respond well to authority, and continually seeks to challenge it...

As your constant suggestions to challenge speeding tickets or peopled endorsements for blatently breaking the law on 'technicalities'....

Your also a tight arse scot, and resent giving people money...

I'm not sure which is the bigger influence here Wink
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 02 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, you forgot my crippling Oedipal complex, but that's a pretty decent assessment. Wink

And as you noted, a good instructor - rather than someone who's talked themselves into believing that they must be good at it because they do it for a living - is a rare and precious thing. Razz

Anyway, you may be reading a bit much into my advocacy of Roadcraft. I don't agree with all of it. In this instance, I suggest that it will give helpful general suggestions about the kind of riding that examiners would like to see on a test.

You can pick that up from an £8.44 book, or you can pay someone a lot more than that to vent their opinion in your ear. In the end though, you're the one sitting the test so you need to be good enough while not under instruction.
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 02 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having owned a 2, I would say get a 4 for it being cheaper to run.

Boring, but since you haven't ridden a 2 stroke, stick with the 4.
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 02 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Well, you forgot my crippling Oedipal complex,

No, I didn't.....I just think that far too many psycologists put too much store in Freud, and try to over intelectualise and de-naturalise basic instinct....

The male desire to bury ones self in, and attach ones self to nicely formed female mamory glands is entirely natural, and in no way indicative of an abhorent sexual desire towards ones mother, nor should it be stretched to some deep seated insecurity suggesting a desire to return to the womb.....
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