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tatman
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PostPosted: 04:54 - 08 Aug 2004    Post subject: misbehaving revs Reply with quote

I have a twin cylinder 2 stroke. I have a problem where if I open up the throttle when it's idleing the engine sputters and dies. If I work the revs up gradually and then close the throttle, the revs take ages to return to idle.

If I adjust the idle screws to make it idle at 3000 instead of 1000, neither of these problems occur but that's only covering up the problem rather than fixing it...
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Jrod
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PostPosted: 07:13 - 08 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like its being flooded when you open the throttle, Maybe the mixture needs adjusting ?
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 08 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I would be inclined to say that it is running lean, but possibly from an air leak from after the carbs. Check the mounting rubbers for the carbs for signs of cracks. Failing that the main bearing seals are also a major source of air leaks.

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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 08 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd agree with kickstart, sounds like a leak in the inlet manifold area.

With the engine at tickover (and before it gets too hot...fire risk), spray some WD40 over the area between the carb and the engine. If the revs increase when you do this, you have an air leak.

What sort of bike? could be a problem with the reed valves if it has them.

What do your plug electrodes look like (colour, signs of pitting/scorching?)
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PostPosted: 00:58 - 09 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a Kawasaki KR-1 250cc 2-stroke. The rubbers between the carbs and the engine look old but I couldn't see any cracks right through.

If this is the prob is there anything I can get to fix it or would it mean replacing the rubbers :-S (parts very hard to get for this bike)
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 01:17 - 09 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

tatman wrote:
It's a Kawasaki KR-1 250cc 2-stroke. The rubbers between the carbs and the engine look old but I couldn't see any cracks right through.

If this is the prob is there anything I can get to fix it or would it mean replacing the rubbers :-S (parts very hard to get for this bike)


Check that out before worrying about it Wink

It would depend on where the leak is. It can be with where it seals round the carb or against the reed block in which case replacing an o-ring/paper gasket or the careful application of flange sealant can sort things out.

I have fixed cracked rubbers using vulcanising solution (the 'glue' in puncture repair kits, melts rubber to itself) before but I wouldn't regard this as a 'good' fix.
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 09 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

would that run the risk of some glue getting sucked into the engine? I'm kinda hoping the rubbers are the problem because they're a comparatively easy fix... The air/fuel pilot screws are adjusted according to the manual so I din't think that's the problem
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 09 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

tatman wrote:
would that run the risk of some glue getting sucked into the engine? I'm kinda hoping the rubbers are the problem because they're a comparatively easy fix... The air/fuel pilot screws are adjusted according to the manual so I din't think that's the problem


It isn't really glue, it kind of liquifies the rubber a bit so it sticks to itself, very runny stuff. The engine would just burn it if you got any inside..but you would have to use FAR too much to stand even a chance of doing that.
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