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 Stuster Scooby Slapper

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 Posted: 17:27 - 01 Feb 2011 Post subject: How To Maintain a 2 Stroke ??? |
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Hi all,
I have just baught my first crosser style bike, I have very briefly owned 2 strokes in the past but never really kept one for longer than a month or so.
I have recently baught a Yamaha DT 125 (87) and am planning on keeping it as i have spent quiet a bit getting it road worthy....
I am looking for some tips on how to run the bike properly and keep it running nicley. Seems a daft questen i no but i hear that the 2 strokes can be a pain if not maintained properly.
Thanks in advance for reading this post and your replys  ____________________ Yamaha TZR125 x 3 Lifan LF125 14-F x 3 Jinlun 125 x 1 Honda CBR 600 F1 Honda Varadero 125cc I am now starting my Honda VFR400 NC30 Project (Still ongoing 27/02/18) Daelim Roadwin 125R |
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Keep it topped up with the best oil 2 stroke oil. I'd recommend Castrol e.t.c and try and avoid your supermarket branded oil.
Every few thousand miles its advisable to "de-coke" the engine,
eg pull the head off remove all the carbon buildup on the piston and around the rings, and also the head.
De-coking the exhaust is always advisable at the same time,
either by burning the carbon out or chemically removing it with a caustic soda mix.
And thats all the maintenance you'll probably need to do.
I have a 2 stroke and personally I would rather have a 4 stroke, but hey that's just my opinion.  |
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| WiiLKO wrote: | Keep it topped up with the best oil 2 stroke oil. I'd recommend Castrol e.t.c and try and avoid your supermarket branded oil.
Every few thousand miles its advisable to "de-coke" the engine,
eg pull the head off remove all the carbon buildup on the piston and around the rings, and also the head.
De-coking the exhaust is always advisable at the same time,
either by burning the carbon out or chemically removing it with a caustic soda mix.
And thats all the maintenance you'll probably need to do.
I have a 2 stroke and personally I would rather have a 4 stroke, but hey that's just my opinion.  |
Hmm... Not entirely untrue but I think you're missing some major aspects of two stroke ownership.
First off, if the bike has auto lube (an oil injector) then yes you need to keep the oil reservoir topped up, and make sure that it is injecting the correct ammount of oil into the engine. If the bike is premix (which it shouldn't be as it can cause lots of problems on converted autolube bikes) then you need to mix the oil with the petrol.
Secondly, you'll probably need to do a top end rebuild every 10,000 miles or so. This involves taking the barrel and head off, and examining them for marks and scores. Examine the piston rings, and if necessary replace the rings, and if the piston is worn replace that as well. If it has done a lot of miles it might need a rebore and hone which means you'll need to get an engineering shop to make the barrel slightly larger, and then re-assemble the bike with a slightly larger piston too.
If its done loads of miles, or blown up then I think it needs a full rebuild including a crank rebuild.
But mostly, you just need to top it up with oil, and thrash it, and do top end rebuilds every 10k miles. ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
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| MarJay wrote: |
you need to mix the oil with the petrol.
Secondly, you'll probably need to do a top end rebuild every 10,000 miles or so. This involves taking the barrel and head off, and examining them for marks and scores. Examine the piston rings, and if necessary replace the rings, and if the piston is worn replace that as well. If it has done a lot of miles it might need a rebore and hone which means you'll need to get an engineering shop to make the barrel slightly larger, and then re-assemble the bike with a slightly larger piston too.
If its done loads of miles, or blown up then I think it needs a full rebuild including a crank rebuild.
But mostly, you just need to top it up with oil, and thrash it, and do top end rebuilds every 10k miles. |
A DT should go longer than 10K on a top end if it's run on decent oil. Other than chucking a plug in it every so often the only things to do are check the oil pump and change the gearbox oil. They are very tough, especially when left as Yamaha intended. I'd be more worried about it being nicked then anything else. |
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Waarrrmmm it uuupppppp before going banana sandwich with it!
I'm keeping my NSR for a fair while and by the grace of god it refuses to pull through the power band untill its warmed up a little. By taking the first few miles gentile untill its warmed up you will be saving lots of maintinance (people say leave it to idle but i can leave my NSR to idle for 5-10 minutes and the temp doesnt budge).
If you are interested in good, fully synthetic oil at a good price i would suggest ordering online. My last batch cost me about £40 for 5 litres delivered, its a little hassle with it being in one big 5 litre bottle but its awesome oil and for 7 bucks a litre, not going to complain!
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Hey guys, thanks very much for all the helpful advice.. I have had a top end rebuild done this week and had new fork seals..... the only thing i am not to sure about is the oil. the last owner topped it up befoure i left with the bike and i am pretty sure it was crappy tesco stuff.....
I am pretty concerened about people pinching it too haha, thats why its in a locked garage and a massive chain around it too.
Thanks again for your helpful advice  ____________________ Yamaha TZR125 x 3 Lifan LF125 14-F x 3 Jinlun 125 x 1 Honda CBR 600 F1 Honda Varadero 125cc I am now starting my Honda VFR400 NC30 Project (Still ongoing 27/02/18) Daelim Roadwin 125R |
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