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 Posted: 14:02 - 04 Feb 2011 Post subject: Losing My Bollocks. |
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Hi guys.
I have noticed that I have lost a lot of bollocks in terms of my riding. I thought it was supposed to be a case of your confidence was supposed to be low when you first start out, then as you get more experienced your confidence increases and you can ride faster and more safely.
Well, when I first started out riding, ignoring the commuting on the CG125, I was pretty much full on pretty much all the time. I had the guts to tear it round country roads as fast as I possibly could and while there were a few hairy moments, it seemed to work out ok.
Fast forward 3 years later and I've gone from care free to someone who's very interested in safety. I can't help but think shit like "if that guy moves a couple of feet over into my lane, or if I come off here then I'm a goner". I guess it's probably a case of me realising my own mortality and growing up. It's not enough to put me off riding or motorcycling, but I'm actually finding I enjoy working on my bikes more than riding the bloomin things.
I guess my enjoyment may be hindered because I'm on my bike every day all year round, so it's pretty much transport for me. I guess it takes away from the times where I do ride for enjoyment.
I think seeing a mate crash his cbr400 in front of me into a barbed wire fence affected me too. Actually, I would say it affected me way more than coming off myself. It's the first and last time I want to see someone fly in real life. He was fine, but it was the worst feeling ever.
I'm guessing maybe track days and the likes might be a good option as it could help me regain confidence in riding and also let off some steam that I feel is holding back. Or perhaps a change of direction is required. Maybe getting into off roading. I'd need to wait and save up some money for a bike though.
I'm 20, but I feel my riding experiences has put years on me. I guess I don't want to be too concerned about the consequences of things, but I guess it could also be what is keeping me alive.
I'm just wondering if anyone else feels the same? I mean, I get the impression that quite a few of you are quite the hooligans on the road without being concerned about the concequences, and I kinda miss that. |
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Or maybe some advanced lessons or bikesafe as a starting point. Although the less you know the better sometimes.
I lost my hooligan streak a few years ago. I miss it deeply.  |
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I started cautious and stayed cautious. FFS, you only have to watch a couple of crash aftermath videos, let alone see a real one, to figure out that we're fragile sacks of meat and blood and pointy bones. If you don't ride with that in mind, then you're just going to add to the KSI statistics sooner or later.
So, good on you, you've grown up and got sensible. Save it for the track, get a Honda Dullsville, whatever it takes for you to enjoy riding the bike you've got in a way that doesn't make you feel like you're deliberately pushing your luck just to recapture your hooligan days. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Wow your only 20, you shouldnt be growing up yet. I see where your coming from - and suppose it doesn't neccesarily come with age but experience. When I was 20 I was driving very fast cars very fast. But generally safely. However at that time I never felt I could trust myself to ride a sportsbike due to my immense 'need for speed'. I thought if I did get a bike id probably be dead in no time. So I put it off for a good few years until I had calmed down a little. Once I had calmed down in the cars I decided I had enough self control to get a bike. (I probably did when I was 20 but there were plenty other reasons why a bike wasn't right at that time).
When I first got my bike and passed my test I was initially ultimately safety concsious, but still balls out - 6 months later I was just balls out and loving it. If I wasnt cranked over going almost as fast as possible round a hedgelined blind bend I felt lacking.
Then I kind of woke up to the fact that Im not invincible and what the fuk would I do if I came round that bend and a tractor was in the middle of the road. I knew I was taking risks but I also knew the roads so was playing a percentage game as I 'knew' to a point what was round the corner.
Nowadays I still take the 'calculated' risks but I definetly have a bit more in reserve than I did when I first passed. The way I see it is biking is a big risk in itself _ I only ride for fun and part of that fun sometimes is the thrill factor. But to me its the 'type' of risks you take which determine wether your going to stay generally safe or not. Theres going a bit too fast and a bit too cranked around a bend that you know 99.9% of the time will be without hazard, then theres the bellends who swing out to overtake a line of traffic without being able to see their destination - Ive had those bellends coming at me on more than one occassion full chat and its not fun. Those riders dont have balls there just plain retarded. |
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I guess I was quite lucky because in my day (sounding about 90 now ) big bikes just didn't handle or stop well enough to do anything too mental. This is partly why I like the brutal old iron of yore. If you take liberties with something like an XS1100, you'll soon know about it.
These ultra fast, on rails, brick wall braked sportsbikes you get now give the rider too much confidence for their own good, IMHO. Probably sounds stupid but I know what I mean
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 Posted: 18:17 - 04 Feb 2011 Post subject: Re: Losing My Bollocks. |
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david_m213 wrote: | Hi guys.
I have noticed that I have lost a lot of bollocks in terms of my riding. I thought it was supposed to be a case of your confidence was supposed to be low when you first start out, then as you get more experienced your confidence increases and you can ride faster and more safely.
Well, when I first started out riding, ignoring the commuting on the CG125, I was pretty much full on pretty much all the time. I had the guts to tear it round country roads as fast as I possibly could and while there were a few hairy moments, it seemed to work out ok.
Fast forward 3 years later and I've gone from care free to someone who's very interested in safety. I can't help but think shit like "if that guy moves a couple of feet over into my lane, or if I come off here then I'm a goner". I guess it's probably a case of me realising my own mortality and growing up. It's not enough to put me off riding or motorcycling, but I'm actually finding I enjoy working on my bikes more than riding the bloomin things.
I guess my enjoyment may be hindered because I'm on my bike every day all year round, so it's pretty much transport for me. I guess it takes away from the times where I do ride for enjoyment.
I think seeing a mate crash his cbr400 in front of me into a barbed wire fence affected me too. Actually, I would say it affected me way more than coming off myself. It's the first and last time I want to see someone fly in real life. He was fine, but it was the worst feeling ever.
I'm guessing maybe track days and the likes might be a good option as it could help me regain confidence in riding and also let off some steam that I feel is holding back. Or perhaps a change of direction is required. Maybe getting into off roading. I'd need to wait and save up some money for a bike though.
I'm 20, but I feel my riding experiences has put years on me. I guess I don't want to be too concerned about the consequences of things, but I guess it could also be what is keeping me alive.
I'm just wondering if anyone else feels the same? I mean, I get the impression that quite a few of you are quite the hooligans on the road without being concerned about the concequences, and I kinda miss that. |
I have been thinking the exact same thing for the past 2 years and if i was to make a post about it then you have pretty much put what i would have word for word.
It gives me a sad sense of inferiority when another bike comes up behind lookin for a bit of a play and my first thought is to just let him past, where as 2 years ago i would have raced him to the death without a though.
I also agree that it seems to take the fun out of it a bit and i too seem to spend more time tinkering than riding these days. Ive done trackdays and they are good for letting off steam but in turn they make you even more cautious on the road as it makes you realise just how many hazards and variables there are in road riding such as manholes, bad surfacing and street furniture along with all the other nutters on the road. So it's a bit of a double edged sword really  ____________________ 04 NSR 125(sold) ---- 03 CBR 600rr(sold) ----90 pan euro ST1100 ' ' ----02 CG 125
94 CB400 Super Four ---- 2000 VTR SP1 (sold) ---- 08 ninja p8f(sold, meh) ----05 CBR600rr  |
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I have found this since I got back on the bike.
It may have something to do with the major surgery I had and the Doctors not knowing if I was going to make it through the evening plus the week in hospital. .
After what I've been through most people don't live to tell the tale, let alone get back on a bike like I did. ! ____________________ "Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul."
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 14 years, 129 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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