Massive dickhead

[Luke_Retrofly]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-12366803

Its alright to go out for a hoon, but to go out with no lights and a pillion with a poorly fitted helmet?

Massive dickhead

I hope he gets 1000 rapes in prison.
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[pinkyfloyd]

Agreed. Its that kind of behaviour that gives the rest of us a bad name and we can manage that all by ourselves.

4 and a half years isnt long enough though.
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[N cee thirty]

only 4 and a half years wtf

bet he'll get out in less aswell for ''good behaviour'

wanker.
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[jackw72]

What a dickhead.

Only 4 and a half years...

Also same maybe said for girl? Helmet didn't fit and he had his head light cover on?

Shame she died and he didn't

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[mistergixer]

Sorry, i saw the thread title and naturally assumed it was about me.

Nothing to see here....move along now.
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Hmmm.
Bet they weren't invisible and were probably more visible than a hell of a lot of other bikes that are entirely legal.

Headlight covers are pretty silly to my mind, but they're not THAT bad.

I wonder if a taxi driver got a lucky escape from a death by dangerous driving case thanks to that.

Though, considering the stereotypes, would presume he was riding inappropriately for the conditions.

[MarJay]

Well, I find this a very interesting story. The kid is young, only 19 years old.

His only crime was to fit a geigh headlight protector style arrangement to his bike, and take a pillion out with a shitty old lid. How many people who have posted in this thread have never taken a pillion with their 'spare' lid that doesn't really fit anyone properly, except maybe the rider?

How many people who have posted in this thread have (n)ever ridden a motorcycle in an illegal condition (such as with bald tyres, loud exhaust etc)?

How many people in this thread would have given their eye teeth for a 1000cc Yamaha at the age of 19?

How many people in this thread have ever had an accident involving another car?

Jeez, the kid was a bit of a dick, but four years for doing something that hundreds of bikers do every day... seems a bit excessive. Also, it seems as though the attitude of forum members appears to swing wildly from one extreme to another. I am obviously aware that different people on this forum have different opinions on things, but it seems as though 'birds of a feather flock together' in this case and once someone starts a thread with a certain opinion, not many people will come along and contradict that opinion.

I'm not condoning what this guy has done, but at the end of the day if he had not have been in the wrong place at the wrong time he'd probably still be riding with poor/no headlights and taking 16 year olds on the back with an ill fitting lid.

Yes, as said, he was a dick, but it seems his punishment is more down to bad luck than willful negligence IMO.

{edit} Re read the story and he had no license or insurance. That is bad... but is it 4 years bad?
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[fiveus]

again what a wanker..Also no insurance or license either

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[MaybeGuy]

i personally sympathise with the guy

> for all we know, he was in his 2 years (just? at 19) and was TECHNICALLY uninsured being over 33bhp. I spent 2 years uninsured if that's the case.

> light smoke headlight covers still let light through, yet look black when off. probably had these on.

> no mention of speeding, or driving recklessly. for all we know the taxi pulled out on him.

4.5 years is fucking stupid tbh. its her own fault for not putting the helmet on properly, or getting on a bike under dressed in the first place.
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[Highside_Hilly]

There was a fatality outside a local cafe where the riders helmet was forced off his head after colliding with a vehicle. I guess assumptions are easily made about this sorta thing, anything could of happened. It's just a shame that the innocent one paid the price
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[kenny]

the guy had no insurance or a licence so why the hell does the title of the bbc story say Bracknell biker jailed for girlfriend's death when he wasnt a biker just a kid who happened to own a yam 1000cc it puts a bad name for the rest of us i feel.
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[MinhDinh]

She is to blame as well.
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[Rogerborg]

We don't know the facts.

However, the jury do. And I tend to trust juries, a lot more than I trust coppers, the CPS and judges. Put the facts to 12 or 15 regular folks, and they tend to cut through the bullshit and come to the right conclusion. Not always, but often.

Since everything we say is speculation, I'll also go ahead and speculate that he started nobbing his 16 year old pillion poppet quite a few years previously, and I fully endorse him enjoying 2+ years (served time) of pooper punishment.

It's mongs like that who get bad laws passed which punish the basically law abiding among us, and effect the likes of him not at all.
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[lewis87]

I agree with matt

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[27cows]

I can't believe he was really riding at night with his headlights 'covered', as in totally, so as to emit no light. No one is that stupid. Which probably means this is a load of anti-biker spin to make this guy sound like a complete moron.

Which he might be, feasibly, but reporting is rarely unbiased in relation to people who ride bikes.
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Reporting is biased to anything that is likely to make people view it - often that means trying to make things more scandalous.
For instance - https://nosleeptilbrooklands.blogspot.com/2011/01/true-story-of-daily-mail-lies-guest.html
While it's easy to blame the people doing it, the market for lies wouldn't exist if the money (people on the street) didn't flock to them/support them.

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[Teflon-Mike]

Its true we dont know the facts, but As far as his licence & insurance go, I think its highly unlikely that he passed his test at 17 and was 'almost' at the end of his two year restriction. Far MORE likely he had done his CBT at 17, spent two years nobbing about on a 125, and realising his cert was about to expire JUST passed his test, and gon and got the biggest, most audaciouse motorcycle he could afford, and immedietly stuck his G/F on the back.... completely ignoring the 33bhp restriction. But thats another matter.

Four and a Half years?

That was the penalty deemed apropriate by the court. He was found guity.

The judiciary is NOT insensative to political climate, and the here and now is that the political powers that be, are VERY intolerent of motoring 'infringements'

As bikers we can bemoan this 'fact', shout about the justice of it, gop on ride-outs, protests and sign pettitions...But we would be utterly foolish to IGNORE that it IS a political fact we in a completely 'intolerant' political climate, and the kid broke the fucking law, WHETHER the laws fair or not is a completely different matter, and someone DIED as a result of him breaking the law.

Wheres that thread about the motorist trying to run a biker off the road, being chased for attempted murder?

Now, we are looking at a whole new set of draconian licencing impositions when the new stepped licence comes in, and more red-tape hoola-hoops of restrictiosn and tests to jump through.

These will marginalise even more younger and unqualified riders, making it ever harder to get the licence to LEGALLY ride big-bikes, and making it FAR easier to ride at risk, on easily accessible, affordable high-performance machines.....Things will only get worse.

And we ARE our own worse enemy. We STILL get ritcheouse about how knife weilding psyco's get community service and multi-million pound embezlers a few weeks in a country-club with guards, and 'stuff'....

But when people come on here talking about hooning it about, stunting, tuning, sticking illegal indicators on thier bikes or whatever... "Whey-hey! Thats the attitude matey, yeah, I dun that! Great stuff...... giv'z moire!"

We dont know whether this lad was pushing the limits or riding completely off teh books, but as said, there but for the grace of..... becouse its not THAT far into the margin... we are being squeezed by incrementally reduceing tolerance levels, and we just do NOT seem to be paying heed to that fact....

The main-stream, needs to wise up, and attitudes need to shift.

We NEED to get away from the 'Rebel-Biker' mindset, and presume it our RIGHT to push the limits and infringe the law, AND get away with it, and start getting in the mind-set that we MUST clean up and get squeeky clean and above board, so we AREN'T making the fucking bulltes for them to shoot us with!

I have watched legislation, and political expedience target bikes and bikers time and time again in my long and illustriouse biking career. I have written the letters, paid my subs to the representative bodies. Added my weight to thier arguments. Been on the rallies.... time and again, from the anti-helmet campagns to Peter-Bottomly's leg-protectors, to the fucking plant-pots to stop bbikes parking on the prom in my home town!

And you know what, much as I love biking, I have got to the point where I REALLY feel that its an utter waste of time.....

When each new generatiuon of riders comes along and serves thier five years on two wheels, gets all self ritcheouse, jumps up and down and does the enthusiastic nimby bit, but VERY fucking few will ACTUALLY take ANY personal responsibility or step into the firing line and risk being acused by thier peers of being a safety nazi suggesting WE ALL ought to buck our ideas up and start taking heed of this kind of threat.

It is NOT one in a million, bad luck, what an outrage.... it is very fucking nearly YOU, me every bludy one of us!

And until we start talking sense and paying heed to these risks, and playing at least lip fucking service to 'the man' as Rogerborg would like top put it in the Jack-Black sense..... they will just keep turning up the wick letting us hang ourselves one-by-fucking-one......

But, I'll tell you right now, I'm not going to be at the front of the fucking queue asking for the noose.....
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