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LUMPY1984
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 06 Feb 2011    Post subject: newbie who passed test then brougt 600 cc ?? Reply with quote

any one on here done this new to bikes then brougt a 600 cc was it a good move as want a r6 doing course soon and wanting to know if this can be done thanks for any info
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 06 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Course it can be done, a lot of peeps will say not to do it, but if you feel capable then go for it.
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 06 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're doing your restricted licence (taking tests on a 125cc motorcycle) the R6 will need to be restricted to 33bhp.

If you're doing the DAS you will be able to ride at full power straight away. So yes, will be possible. There have been so many threads recently regarding this, directly below this thread. A lot of good advice in them...
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 06 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's very easy to do your test then splash a bit of cash to get a flash R6.

Just make sure to get your organ donor card with it. Thumbs Up

I did it and lived to tell the tale but I was lucky and there were a few moments when my life could easily have been cut short.

I now enjoy my biking at a more sedate pace.
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 06 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christ Shocked an r6 as your first...Are you on a death wish or something? Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 06 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

whats the big hoo har ? me and all my mates went staright from 50s to big bikes Thumbs Up do it man, best decision you will make, just take it easy till your used to it
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 06 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went from owning nothing, only doing lessons/test on a YBR125 to owning a CBR600F. Not quite an R6 but still pretty hefty.
I'm still alive. It's all about not being a moron, basically. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:05 - 06 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode a cbr1000rr6 2 weeks after my test, and a fair few times after (restricted officer) There are much more sensible and forgiving options than an R6, but it's all about throttle control - when to open it up and when you shouldn't. While it doesn't happen to all, many will drop their first bikes - so something without fairings is advisable. Your choice anyway...

Benson_JV wrote:
I went from owning nothing, only doing lessons/test on a YBR125 to owning a CBR600F. Not quite an R6 but still pretty hefty.
I'm still alive. It's all about not being a moron, basically. Thumbs Up


You've only been riding it for about 2 days though, right? Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 06 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Highside_Hilly wrote:
I rode a cbr1000rr6 2 weeks after my test, and a fair few times after (restricted officer) There are much more sensible and forgiving options than an R6, but it's all about throttle control - when to open it up and when you shouldn't. While it doesn't happen to all, many will drop their first bikes - so something without fairings is advisable. Your choice anyway...

Benson_JV wrote:
I went from owning nothing, only doing lessons/test on a YBR125 to owning a CBR600F. Not quite an R6 but still pretty hefty.
I'm still alive. It's all about not being a moron, basically. Thumbs Up


You've only been riding it for about 2 days though, right? Laughing


Yeah since thursday...but shush. It's still valid. Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 06 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first bike after DAS was the triumph I still own. 750cc and had no bother. Less than 6,000 miles of experience and I spent the weekend on a monster 916 S4. I had absolutely no prior experience on two wheels other than a day on a cg125 for my CBT and three days on a CB500 for the DAS course.

I'm still alive. No spills and lots of thrills. My only advice would be to not go quicker than your abilities can handle. To begin with I always made sure I was going at a speed such that if something untoward happened, an emergency stop would get me out of it safely. As I became more competent a counter steering, I picked up the pace knowing that I could easily swerve to avoid dickheads moving into my path when filtering. Once I had sussed out how to read the road (vanishing points and all that jazz) I started to pick up the pace in the bends too.

As long as you're sensible, you'll not get into more bother than you would on any other machine regardless of engine size. Act like a dickhead and ride beyond your limits... A bigger capacity bike will just chew you up and spit you out ten times faster than you can blink. Horses for course innit.

If it was so dangerous to ride a big capacity machine on a fresh licence, the DAS system wouldn't exist. But DAS does not automatically make you safe on any bike, let alone 100bhp sports bikes.

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PostPosted: 00:26 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Help needed, which 600cc bike to buy as my first bike ?
Its not exactly 'lost' in the depths of the forum....

I said on there, 600 Sports-Bikes aren't a great idea for many people to begin with.
Even for an 'expert' rider, they are not the most rewarding bikes to ride.
They only do one thing, and thats go fast... and they do it bludy well....
But mostly they are all about offering the race-replica cudos of ownership and massaging thier owners egos.
Almost any idiot can go quick on one, becouse thay are so good, so it dont give you much to boast about with your mates, doing what they do on them... unless they are similar idiots....
And all they do is encourage you to go quicker, and quicker, more and more often to get the speed fix they deliver in ever smaller measures, until....
well, they are like heroine.... trips pretty wild the first time, but, keeps you coming back for more and more until giving less and less each time, until it kills you...
There are hundreds bikes out there, that can do everything the 600-sports will, and SO much more.. and an awful lot of them are even newbie freindly.... but hey... if you must you must... and if thats where you want to begin, I'm sure you'll be very happy, becouse you just wont even KNOW that there is so much more to biking, and riding can be so much more fun.....
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PostPosted: 00:28 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you trust your wrist?
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PostPosted: 00:50 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'll only go as fast as you make it.

I had never ridden a motorbike before my DAS, bought a ZX6r a few weeks after it. Admittedly, a ten year old one. Which I rode like an old biffer for the first year, gradually getting quicker and more confident.

A chum at work bought a 750, but it was a really old one, and she doesn't go particularly fast either.
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PostPosted: 01:15 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks alot for all the info guys i see where every ones coming from about big bike for a learner but think im going to be like miss daisy to be honest i have 3 kids and not going to drive like a wally to lose a life i come from a car back ground and seen too many accidents in them from idiots driving to impress not me at all only want the r6 as its what i want and love the look looked into the 125s but dont give me the same feeling when i look at it and picture me riding it if that makes sense so it can be done and true what some one said its how much throttle is given thanks again
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in the exact same mind set as you when I first decided to do my DAS course. Im in the process of about to do it. Done my CBT and theory.

I had decided I wanted an R6 because they looked amazing and obviously an incredibly fast machine. I then changed my mind and decided I was going to get a Triumph Daytona 675. Another super sports.

BUT Ive now seen the light. At the end of the day whats the rush? Im going to probably get an SV650. Still a really nice looking bike and also relatively quick but apparently a lot more forgiving for the newbie. My plan is to stick with that for a year or 2 then get a super sports. In that time I will increase my experience and also another point to bear in mind is insurance. A super sports is stupidly expensive to insure as a newbie. I was looking at 1400quid compared to 300 for an SV. With a couple of years experience and hopefully no claims that should go down.

Just bare that all in mind. Have a look at SV. The fully faired look like a proper sports bike and also sound great with the V twin.
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not, if it's the bike you really want. I got a VFR800 after my DAS, and I've yet to regret 5000 miles later. As others have said, it doesn't matter what bike you are riding, you can be unsafe on anything. Yes, the R6 has a reputation as being one of the more unforgiving 600s, so perhaps a little more restraint will be required until you are used to the power delivery. Have fun Very Happy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:20 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I passed I bought a brand new zxr400. My mate bought a brand new GXR1000. Both still alive and well.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know I've posted my thoughts already, but another thing I thought about...

Surely starting on something slower than a 600 sportsbike will give you more experience? On a slower bike you'd have to learn to corner properly to maintain speed throughout, getting smoother and much quicker as your experience and confidence builds up. While on a 600/1000 you can just hit the brakes on entry into the corner and just use the power out without any real technique...Or am I just being silly?
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

in theory, but slip the throttle on a corner on a big bike and you just bin it into a tree... Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Re: newbie who passed test then bought 600 cc ?? Reply with quote

LUMPY1984 wrote:
brought a 600 cc


Brought a 600cc where...? Aaah, I just re-read your post, and I think you actually meant you have just passed your test and then bought yourself a 600cc Wink

Well done, welcome to the world of biking. Sooooo many people do just that, never ride ever, then pass DAS and hop straight onto a large cc motorbike.

Fair do's. Cool

Enjoy. You will wonder why you didn't do it sooner.
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Re: newbie who passed test then bought 600 cc ?? Reply with quote

Clanger wrote:
Brought a 600cc where...? Aaah, I just re-read your post, and I think you actually meant you have just passed your test and then bought yourself a 600cc Wink

I think it's a southerner thing. I know plenty of people who say brought instead of bought and oddly enough they're all cockernees.

Clanger wrote:
Well done, welcome to the world of biking. Sooooo many people do just that, never ride ever, then pass DAS and hop straight onto a large cc motorbike.

Fair do's. Cool

Enjoy. You will wonder why you didn't do it sooner.

I did, and I do!
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PostPosted: 01:36 - 09 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Digitalize wrote:
Can you trust your wrist?


I can't, it rapes me on a daily basis
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 09 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

NSR125 to a Fireblade and I have only died twice thus far. I think that counts as a success? Thinking

I lulz at all the 'are you mad' brigade.
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 09 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I moved from a Chinese 125cc (9.6bhp) on to a 600cc (100bhp) bike after around 4-5 hours of riding, and passing my test, on an ER6n.

My Thundercat will quite happily do the speeds and hold the corners I could do on my small bike without any problems, with less drama.

It does have the potential for me to hoon around at supercar pace though.

Point is, I decide how it behaves, not the bike.
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