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PostPosted: 22:51 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Insurance wording? Reply with quote

Just been having a look at the Wife's new policy details and as per normal they ask for annual mileage, but the've also asked for the current mileage and a decleration to say the vehicle won't exceed this within the policy term.

WTF is all that about?
Can the insurance company dictate how many miles the bike can travel ? or just how many miles with my wife riding it? What if I decide I want to ride to Spain and back adding another 2k, she has already done 5k, bringing the total to 7k in a year even though she only stated 5k?
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funnily enough I was reading through my own policy today and it states that the cover will be reduced to the minimum legal requirements should mileage go over your specified amount.

I presume in the instance that two people are insured on the same vehicle, the mileage limit would be for the vehicle not the individual driver/rider. Don't quote me on that though!
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im not covered under her policy but could ride the bike and be covered under my own, so I don't see how they could limit the mileage I could do when they won't even cover me to ride it
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Insurance companies are owned by the Devil and ran by Devil Spawn.

What your lady has is another "get out clause" so they have another excuse not to pay should you need to claim.
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a specialist 4x4 policy for my landrover and it states 5000 miles maximum. If I go over that I have to tell them and they will adjust my policy (with more money Crying or Very sad ) up to the next level which is 7000 miles. If I don't tell them, my insurance is invalid.

But its a lot cheaper than anything else I can get hold of, £202 FC including off road use. The next policy up, a standard car policy with no milage limitations, was over £600 FC

Oh, I have to have use of another vehicle to get that policy, it can't be the main vehicle.
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
Insurance companies are owned by the Devil and ran by Devil Spawn.

What your lady has is another "get out clause" so they have another excuse not to pay should you need to claim.

But is it a legal clause? Could they turn around in 11 months time after a bump and say 'sorry, you've exceeded the miles stated on your policy, so we are withdrawing cover' even if it wasn't her doing the extra miles?
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to have some involvement in the classic car scene.

all people used to do was disconnect the speedo, or keep a spare one with the correct milage on!

not condoning that though
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah right yeah I see your point. If I were you I'd give them a ring and ask. If not for your own curiosity then for everyone elses here Razz

I've a feeling it'll be vehicle related because you can't prove she didn't put those miles on the bike. And as she is the owner and main rider and policy holder, it would be presumed that it was her?
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

This ain't no clasic though, its a fecking srad
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenben92 wrote:
Ah right yeah I see your point. If I were you I'd give them a ring and ask. If not for your own curiosity then for everyone elses here Razz

I've a feeling it'll be vehicle related because you can't prove she didn't put those miles on the bike. And as she is the owner and main rider and policy holder, it would be presumed that it was her?


It is vehicle related. My missus is on the policy for the landy and it's still 5000 miles total. Not per person.
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PostPosted: 07:16 - 08 Feb 2011    Post subject: Re: Insurance wording? Reply with quote

boundy wrote:
Just been having a look at the Wife's new policy details and as per normal they ask for annual mileage, but the've also asked for the current mileage and a decleration to say the vehicle won't exceed this within the policy term.


So another loop hole is covered off. If people had not been abusing the fact that saying you only do x miles a year to get cheaper ins, when they do far more miles. They would not now be doing this.

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WTF is all that about?
Can the insurance company dictate how many miles the bike can travel ?


They are not dictating how many mile you/bike can do..... YOU are by stating that you/bike will only cover x miles.

More miles = more risk = more cost. Shocked
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PostPosted: 08:07 - 08 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just had to renew both bike and car insurance. On both they asked what mileage i would be doing, I always gave an approx' mileage and said it was approx'. The car insurance asked what other vehicle was in the household but only gave cars as an option so it was a none of the above, which was honest. the bike asked if I used a vehicle and how many no claims I had on that.
They didn't ask for my current mileage, but you couls get something from the MOT, which is on line and easy to read for them.
I guess they use it as a gide to the type of riding you do, no point in saying you do 400 miles a year when you do 23,000 miles. it will be a get out clause for those who are taking the piss, but I'm sure a few miles either way won't be an issue.
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 08 Feb 2011    Post subject: Re: Insurance wording? Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
More miles = more risk = more cost. Shocked


I thought that buy my CBR actually dropped in price FC when i put more miles down. When i asked about it they said that it was less likely to be stolen when i was with it which makes sense in a way so i put down 15K max even though i only covered 6k that year.

Dunno how really but i wasnt complaining ha!
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 08 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's basically where the criminal monopolizing scum want you to pay a fat premium for not using your vehicle as much as you need and/or want to.

And then the govt wonders why there are approx 2m people driving without insurance.
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 08 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

A mate has just had a tracker fitted to his car by his insurance company to log how many miles he is doing Shocked
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 08 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
It's basically where the criminal monopolizing scum want you to pay a fat premium for not using your vehicle as much as you need and/or want to.

And then the govt wonders why there are approx 2m people driving without insurance.


Yeah, what he said. I don't suppose you can ring up and say "actually I only did 2000 miles this year instead of the quoted 5000 - can I have a refund for the unused miles?"
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 08 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam_Y_93 wrote:
A mate has just had a tracker fitted to his car by his insurance company to log how many miles he is doing Shocked


Personal, or company car/policy?
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 08 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

boundy wrote:

But is it a legal clause? Could they turn around in 11 months time after a bump and say 'sorry, you've exceeded the miles stated on your policy, so we are withdrawing cover' even if it wasn't her doing the extra miles?


To an extent it is a legal clause (they can put pretty much what they like in there), but under the road traffic act they couldn't get out of a 3rd party claim based on that wording.

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PostPosted: 12:47 - 08 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's purely because, I would presume, so many people will just use the excuse "it wasn't me doing those thousands of miles", seems they've got wise to that.

It was a nice loop-hole, but people exploiting it presumably relatively 'cost' them (in reality, I don't think I did, though it's possible I may have done in the past - rare I did many miles on a single vehicle, usually I'd just put '3000' down). I don't see any other way they can insure someone for 3000 miles and NOT have the possibility of them doing 30000 miles and claiming the rest wasn't them. Well, apart from vehicle tracking with your own insurance smart card - which is a rather scarier prospect!
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PostPosted: 13:01 - 08 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
Sam_Y_93 wrote:
A mate has just had a tracker fitted to his car by his insurance company to log how many miles he is doing Shocked


Personal, or company car/policy?


Personal, it has made his insurance go down though.
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PostPosted: 13:05 - 08 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long before ins companies think they can charge per-mile? It's not as if we have any choice about buying it, or that the govt legislates to prevent the outrageous abuse of ins companies against the public.
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 08 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen some companies (such as more than i think) that were offering trackers and cheaper prices if you didnt drive between 10pm and 6am or some thing like that as thats when the young boy racer lot seem to be in the local fast food car parks etc.
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 08 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or because the Govt is a majority shareholder in a bank that provides a fair chunk of the private motor insurance market.

Conflict of interest?
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 08 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, there's already companies that are trialing schemes that not only charge per mile, but your driving style. For most of the people taking it up, it ends up with much cheaper insurance.
Of course the people wanting to do 90mph through 30mph zones on their bikes probably aren't applying.
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 10 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Yea, there's already companies that are trialing schemes that not only charge per mile, but your driving style. For most of the people taking it up, it ends up with much cheaper insurance.
Of course the people wanting to do 90mph through 30mph zones on their bikes probably aren't applying.


Road pricing by the back door? Laughing
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