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KevsGsi
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PostPosted: 23:13 - 08 Feb 2011    Post subject: New to biking....... Reply with quote

So new i've never even been on one Confused
Im looking at doing the direct access course in the near future tho.
Im not sure what route to go down tho, do i just go there and get them to teach me from scratch or do i get a cheap 125 to ride around some private land i have access to to get a bit of practice and some gear control????

I'll be getting a gsxr600, Ive read a few threads about new riders going staight to big bikes and i understand the dangers so i dont want this thread to turn into an argument from both sides please Wink

I do have a few questions about protective gear tho, the first one is Kevlar Jeans or leather trousers? pros and cons or each would be helpfull please and also any opinions on these boots, helmet and leather jacket would be very helpfull... I like the fact the jacket has a built in back protector and as for the helmet its just what i was looking for design wise but i know thats no reason to buy it if its poo, its half price but still seems cheap and it has mixed reviews.
Boots..
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190491881698&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Jacket..
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380313706214&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Helmet..
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380274654064&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT


Hope thats not too long for my first post Embarassed
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 08 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helmet wise, pick one that fits well, try before you buy is a absolute must Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 08 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the forum. Good luck with DAS. If you are going for DAS then theres no need to buy a 125. You'll only be on one for a day to do the CBT and then you'll be on a 500 if you take to it well enough.

As for clothing. Helmet, Make sure it fits properly. Spend as little or as much as you want. Theres lots of contention about cheap lids vs expensive ones but at the end of the day they all have to meet the uk BSE standard to be sold here in the first place.

Kevlar jeans have their pro's and cons. They are designed for wearing on the bike and wearing casually. Personally I cant see any fault with them. Leather trousers are designed with the purpose of riding a bike and thats about it. They arent the most comfy of things to walk around in but will help save your skin if you come off.

Nothing wrong with the boots or Jacket apart from the colour of the boots. White boots will be a bitch to keep clean.
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PostPosted: 23:48 - 08 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

as above really, i wouldnt bother with a 125 at all just go and do your course etc

as for helmet just make sure its a perfect fit, go to a helmet shop and ask for there help, they are very very usefull. try loads and loads on, narrow your choice down to the most comfotable, then wear it for a while in the shop to check it doesnt give you a headache after 10 minutes or anything.

kevlar jeans are alright to be honest, and i have RST leather jacket and trousers and i can vouch for them, they are very very very good Thumbs Up amazing quality for there price, my jacket still looks basicly new after a few years of abuse
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PostPosted: 23:48 - 08 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd never really ridden a geared bike before I did my DAS. I was lucky and took to it well. I found the GS500 much easier to handle than the 125 I spent a few hours doing my CBT on, because it was more stable and had much more power.

Why don't you give this a shot, you'll get some free riding Very Happy https://www.geton.co.uk/content/whats-it-all-about

As said helmet fit is paramount so make sure you get out to some bike shops and try some skid lids. You can get a decent one from around £60 but i'm not even going to start that argument!

I wear textiles with armour and find them fine for commuting to work, make sure you have removable liners as they can get hot in the summer. Leather is the ultimate in protection but you pay for that with a loss of practicality.

Enjoy the course and the GSXR, but watch it........it'll kill ya Wink
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KevsGsi
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PostPosted: 23:57 - 08 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies and big thanks for the link, looks like a good idea. So if i come off and slide with the kevlar jeans on will it just eat through them?
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clancy
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PostPosted: 00:14 - 09 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

it will protect more than normal clothing, no where near what leathers would. saying that you could proabbly have a few offs in kevlar jeans and not get a scratch really, luck of the draw sometimes.

also practicality, if your going somewhere were its not practicle to have leather/textile trousers on all day then kevlar jeans are your best option Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:48 - 09 Feb 2011    Post subject: Re: New to biking....... Reply with quote

KevsGsi wrote:
So new i've never even been on one [but I'ma git me a Gixxer]


If you're determined to get a gixxer, don't waste your time with a 125, just cram through your DAS.

By the way, do you have a hot wife or girlfriend, and can I have her phone number?


KevsGsi wrote:
Kevlar Jeans or leather trousers?


Sunny Sunday rider and don't think you'll come off => kevlar jeans
Sunny Sunday rider, prepared to accept that you might come off => leather
All weather rider => cordura (textile)

KevsGsi wrote:
leather jacket


That's a cordura textile jacket, not leather. It's likely to be more water resistant than leather, less likely to come apart at the seams than cheap leather but ultimately not as protective as good leather.

The back protector will be better than nothing, and you're more likely to leave it in and wear it. If you've got some self discipline, consider something like a Knox back and chest protector rig though.

The HJC helmet is 3 star SHARP rated, with good front, top and rear protection, but not so good side protection. Do please consider a white or silver helmet though - better if you can be seen and not hit in the first place.

With helmets and boots, it's mostly about fit though. Get down to your local bike store, and try on a bunch of helmets and boots. If it's not secure and snug without pinching or rubbing, then it won't protect you.
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clancy
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PostPosted: 00:59 - 09 Feb 2011    Post subject: Re: New to biking....... Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
The back protector will be better than nothing, and you're more likely to leave it in and wear it. If you've got some self discipline, consider something like a Knox back and chest protector rig though.



just so your aware kevsGsi, the higher end RST leathers come with Knox armour as standard which is the jacket ive got, think it was £280 ish about 2 years ago, but there are some very nice textile ones with knox armour for about the price of the ones you were looking at, best bet is have a look when your looking at helmets, your bound to see loads of nice stuff Thumbs Up
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