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 Posted: 23:16 - 13 Feb 2011 Post subject: I finally figured out why I'm so fanatical about small bikes |
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I was riding around on the humble 250 today... going through various bends and such and I kept thinking "Oh, I used to be full throttle on the aerox through that" as I sweep through with ease, 1/8th throttle...
Then it hit me, almost an epiphany.
I'm bored with excess power.
Now the GN doesnt make much, only 21hp at peak... but opening it up properly on most roads around my town means I'm speeding in most places and having to hold back for legality sake
It overtakes any car around town and even on A roads I only sit at about 50ish, it's where I'm happy. Even on NSL roads.
Towns are for shredding about, and A roads are for cruising on to me... Motorways are full of monotomy
See, at this point, everyone is probably thinking "Fucking pussy, just get a bigger bike" Don't get me wrong. I DO want a bigger bike, but only for easy motorway mile munching and travelling any further than 50 miles out from home
But all I seem to do is wind up skint and can't leave town due to petrol restraints...
I just miss my "Blasting about with mates" days on my 50's and 125's
Now I await the inevitable "Cool story bro" post or other people lolling at me =P ____________________ My bike? A YX140 powered one-off Monkey Bike, something a little different! |
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I understand the appeal of smaller bikes and normally have 400s but for christ's sake man, 21hp isn't excessive power in ANY situation is it?  |
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 Posted: 23:35 - 13 Feb 2011 Post subject: Re: I finally figured out why I'm so fanatical about small b |
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| G wrote: | | spannermonkey91 wrote: | I finally figured out why I'm so fanatical about small bikes |
Because you've never spent a decent amount of time getting used to a bigger bike? |
I'm going to go out on a limb here and support the OP, as someone who's spent over 2 years "getting used" to a bigger bike (CB500).
I'm looking for a new bike - and i'm not after a 600+, i'm after, another small bike. Maybe, an RXS100 (fed up of paying so much at the pumps!), or maybe an NSR125/Mito (we'll see what i end up with, but i'm currently looking at a Mito from somone on here). Because the 500 is quite boring to ride and just fails to bring much grin factor (and yes, i do ride it using the throttle properly - it's not that i'm sitting at 4K revs and expecting fun to follow). BUT at the same time, the power is more than enough. Possibly too much, i don't feel the need for all 57 of those horses, and i certainly don't feel the need for more horses! There's a fair amount of the time i'm pretty bored, being held up on the roads around here where you just can't pass legally, even if i had triple the horses - and i kinda wish the bike wasn't cruising along at such low revs... (yes i have tried knocking it down a gear or two )
I will say though, i don't want to get rid of the 500, for long distance work, and probably in part because i've invested weeks of my time and thousands of pounds, into making it run well/properly.
Maybe in time my mind will be changed by some different metal, but right now, i agree much with the OP, and BLUEX5. ____________________ -- Ingah |
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I can see where your coming from although i dont think you could describe 21hp as excessive. I've just dropped down from a fireblade to a hyosung gt250r for a variety of reasons and i am havin a whale of a time. I was genuinely surprised to find that i dont feel like im going a whole lot slower which of course, im not cause of the shitness of riding in England. The bit i do miss though is that feeling of holding on for dear life when pulling away in first gear  ____________________ 2012 Sinnis apache |
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 Posted: 23:40 - 13 Feb 2011 Post subject: Re: I finally figured out why I'm so fanatical about small b |
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First off, you've chosen a particularly 'boring' bigger bike, I'd say.
I suspect you might find something like a sports 400 or 250 2t which has similar power in a more enthusiastic package a different proposition .
I do prefer smaller bikes for fun myself, but not that small power wise - my favourite bike is probably a 144cc for the whole package, while engine wise has to be my 200 - however we're talking over 30hp in a light and very, very light for the 144, package.
Not saying the OP was 'wrong', just that he seemed to be basing his opinion from a lack of knowledge, rather than from understanding what he didn't like.
As for "can't pass legally" - I presume you mean double white lines or already going at the legal speed. You might be surprised at some of the overtaking opportunities having over 150hp in a vehicle weighing under 200kgs opens up to you . |
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 Posted: 23:47 - 13 Feb 2011 Post subject: Re: I finally figured out why I'm so fanatical about small b |
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| G wrote: | First off, you've chosen a particularly 'boring' bigger bike, I'd say.
I suspect you might find something like a sports 400 or 250 2t which has similar power in a more enthusiastic package a different proposition .
I do prefer smaller bikes for fun myself, but not that small power wise - my favourite bike is probably a 144cc for the whole package, while engine wise has to be my 200 - however we're talking over 30hp in a light and very, very light for the 144, package.
Not saying the OP was 'wrong', just that he seemed to be basing his opinion from a lack of knowledge, rather than from understanding what he didn't like. |
You're probably spot on with what i'd like (having wanted both a VFR400 and been a little tempted by the NSR250 et al before, if a little concerned that the 250cc of 2T power delivery might be a little much). BUT the vital extra piece of information is that i'm a student, and literally cannot afford to run such machines as this country makes it too expensive to do so (at the pumps and at the start of the year when asking for insurance). The parts situation isn't so good either, with the sheer % of import bikes in that range.
Picked the CB500 because it was 'sensible' and 'affordable', as well as powerful. It was probably the worst single machine in the country at the time for me (as my only on-the-road-machine, it was an unreliable old and knackered, cost a fortune in time, parts and inconvenience, as well as failing to "wow" me now it's all sweet). ____________________ -- Ingah |
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Hi
Another vote for small bikes, but tend to like them with a power delivery that encourages thrashing. Even a 2 stroke 250 is getting to the point where full performance cannot be used that often (100mph is nasty slap on the wrist, 130mph is bye bye license time).
That said the YSR doesn't have enough power to be fun on performance. Enough to get round but fun in other ways.
All the best
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anyoneone want to buy my c90??
tough shit, you cant  ____________________ killa wrote: Im an ass man myself |
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