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gezza2009
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 25 Feb 2011    Post subject: CG 125, Replacing exhaust Reply with quote

Hi, how hard is it to remove the old exhaust & fit the new one?
I have googled everything i can think of but cant find any instructions or tips.

CG-125 06 Plate

https://www.bitzforbikes.co.uk/Complete_Standard_Exhaust-ref-16496-9455-53.html

bought for £55 inc del with voucher code.

Many Thanks
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 25 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

About as easy job there it really. Unbolt old one, put new one one.

That's if nothing goes wrong, plus you should replace the gasket that sits in the exhaust outlet. Sometimes they can be tricky to see but they're in there and need to be prised out carefully and replaced. The only other thing to look out for in snapping the studs when undoing the nuts holding it on. Go easy and it should be simple job.
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 25 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks m8, my current exhaust as started to blow where the weld as corroded, the shop quoted me £100 for new exhaust and fitting or £40 to fill it and weld it up.
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 27 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

another quick question, are the two bolts that hold the exhaust to the engine just like normal screws
i.e
slacken and unscrew
replace exhaust and screw studs back in?

thx guys
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 27 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

And don't over tighten.


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PostPosted: 15:14 - 27 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

okey thx guys
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 27 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just in case it's not a single unit exhaust system but rather in two parts you may need to smear some exhaust sealant at the point where the downpipe goes into the can because you will always have very slight imperfections depending how good their manufacturing process is due to sizing/measuring is an approximate and not exact science and that's why you get a gasket at the end to seal between the downpipe and the outlet from the engine to prevent leaking of exhaust fumes and keep the compression good!

Be aware the nuts holding the exhaust collar in place to keep the downpipe in may have corroded and therefore be wary not to round off the nuts and so use a good tight fitting spanner probably be a 8mm or 10mm on whats required to the job. If it won't budge then use an impact driver instead to aid the turning of the nut and smear some copper grease to prevent it corroding.
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PostPosted: 17:29 - 02 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

just an update, got my exhaust today and fitted it but when riding it makes a blubbery sound, i took it to a mechanic who said its leaking abit from front.

do you guys think this is the problem or just a shitty exhaust lol.
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 02 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you replace the gasket?
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 02 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

the old one didnt seem to have one, so i brought one and stuck it in.
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 02 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

It can often seems like there's not one in there as it sits inside the head and covered in crap. If you take off the exhaust, take out the new gasket and have a poke around gently with a small screwdriver and you'll probably find the old gasket. Gently prise it out and refit with a new gasket.
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 02 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

which is the best way to refit the exhaust because first time i screwed it in head first but then it wouldnt lineup at the silencer hole.

is there a special nack toit
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 02 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would normaly , stick gasket in the head with grease , fit the pipe hand tight to head , while supporting silencer * because most of the time,
you can't get the downpipe in the head when it is fitted to the bracket first *, fit the bolt in the bracket loose , tighten at the head , then at the bracket . * Edited *
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 02 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

gezza2009 wrote:
which is the best way to refit the exhaust because first time i screwed it in head first but then it wouldnt lineup at the silencer hole.

is there a special nack toit


Loosely fit the exhaust at the side where it bolts up otherwise gets someone to hold it for you in place/prop it up with something appropriate and hopefully this will give you some free movement, then line up the head of the downpipe to fit against where the gasket should be and then start tightening things up EVENLY till fully secured.

In regards to the gasket yes it can be that a gasket is already in there and as said earlier either corrosion/crap has built up over it and so gentle poke with an average sized screwdriver 3mm inside the rim to see if you discover an old gasket there hiding.
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 02 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

any easy way to get the gaskets out, cant get them out
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 02 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just used a small screwdriver to prise them out in the past. Just don't get frustrated, be gentle but firm and get those bad boys out.
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 02 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got the gasket out that i put in, behind it is another round copper ring, the outta ring seems to be compressed is it a gasket?
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 02 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes!

Once replaced and you've ridden the bike for a while check on the nuts again holding the downpipe in place because you may have to tighten them up a fraction bit more as the copper gasket may get a little bit compressed causing a very slight leak due to metal expanding then contracting overtime!


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PostPosted: 19:36 - 02 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

put old pipe on cause i need it for work tomorrow. i couldnt get the gasket out it was just breakin up.
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 02 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Copper grease the new gasket and screws before refitting as well, which will help with later removal and create a good seal. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 02 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx for the info guys, can someone give me some tips to remove this gasket.

it looks like the crushable type as the outta edge it crushed.
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