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The thing with bikes is. Its more likely to do yourself a serious injury if you crash. Cant hide that fact. the stats speak for themselves. You dont have a cage around you made of metal to cushion you from the forces involved.
Gives you a few options from that thought. First thing of course is try not to crash and hope that you dont. Secondly is protection. Wear it. Think of it like condoms. Better to have protection and not need it then need it and not have it.
Or not ride a bike like the GF says. But if you go along that route your're just as likely to fall down the stairs or do something equally silly in the house. Most injuries are caused in the home afterall. Might as well take that on board and move into a padded cell.
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She's right.
You ARE more likely to be seriousely injured if you crash a bike, ANd you ARE more likely to crash a bike than a car.... about three times more likely on both counts.....
However, on that score, since you are about five times more likely to be killed or seriousely injured in an 'alchohol related incident' in a town centre on a Friday or saturday night, with a broken bottle in iether of your faces, or a knife in your ribs...... my retirt would be, fine, I'll get a car, but don't expect me to take you out on the pop a Weekend..... its TOO DANGEROUSE......
Your call, shall we live dangerousely, or not at all?
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| elobire wrote: | I guess you all have a point.
i dont plan on driving like a complete fool and my parents said that i have to wear all the protective clothing if i get a bike so i guess there isnt really that much to worry about. |
You don't sound like your usual moronic 16 year old, so I think its worth making the effort to try to respond properly to your post.
Yes, it is indeed more dangerous to ride a motorcycle than drive a car, but that doesn't mean you WILL have an accident on a bike, and you won't get hurt in a car. It does mean, though, that you need to think carefully about everything you do on a bike, and there is much less leeway on a bike for 'pratting about'. A lot of the people I knew at 17 survived car smashes that in retrospect make me shudder, but they usually walked away without a scratch. These incidents more often than not occurred after a 'Watch this!' moment in front of their mates.
If you've got a brain, and you don't think you'll succumb to pratting about in front of your mates, then you can survive on a bike, but you can't let your concentration slip for an instant.
It is important that you know how dangerous riding a bike is, but if you try to deny that fact, then your relatives and friends are less likely to accept you riding a bike in the long term. The best thing to do is to tell them that you understand it can be dangerous on a bike, but you'll do everything you can to reduce the risk to yourself.
It is also important to note that at the age of 16 your girlfriend should have no influence over the course of your life. She more than likely isn't going to stay with you forever, and so why should she have any influence over a decision that could affect your entire life?
If you decide to get a bike, take it easy, understand the risks, wear the correct gear, know how to maintain your bike and do the right training and you'll be fine.
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| MarJay wrote: | | elobire wrote: | I guess you all have a point.
i dont plan on driving like a complete fool and my parents said that i have to wear all the protective clothing if i get a bike so i guess there isnt really that much to worry about. |
You don't sound like your usual moronic 16 year old, so I think its worth making the effort to try to respond properly to your post.
Yes, it is indeed more dangerous to ride a motorcycle than drive a car, but that doesn't mean you WILL have an accident on a bike, and you won't get hurt in a car. It does mean, though, that you need to think carefully about everything you do on a bike, and there is much less leeway on a bike for 'pratting about'. A lot of the people I knew at 17 survived car smashes that in retrospect make me shudder, but they usually walked away without a scratch. These incidents more often than not occurred after a 'Watch this!' moment in front of their mates.
If you've got a brain, and you don't think you'll succumb to pratting about in front of your mates, then you can survive on a bike, but you can't let your concentration slip for an instant.
It is important that you know how dangerous riding a bike is, but if you try to deny that fact, then your relatives and friends are less likely to accept you riding a bike in the long term. The best thing to do is to tell them that you understand it can be dangerous on a bike, but you'll do everything you can to reduce the risk to yourself.
It is also important to note that at the age of 16 your girlfriend should have no influence over the course of your life. She more than likely isn't going to stay with you forever, and so why should she have any influence over a decision that could affect your entire life?
If you decide to get a bike, take it easy, understand the risks, wear the correct gear, know how to maintain your bike and do the right training and you'll be fine. |
I think I'm having a bad influence on you Marjay.... curiousely erudite, as well as spot on the ball!
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| elobire wrote: | I guess you all have a point.
i dont plan on driving like a complete fool and my parents said that i have to wear all the protective clothing if i get a bike so i guess there isnt really that much to worry about. |
As mentioned above, there is still plenty to be worrying about.
Protective gear is a good start, it's saved my skin more than once, walked away from accidents that would have seen me having skin grafts without it.
It's good that you don't plan on riding or driving like a tool. Well, it's a start at least. Whether or not this translates into reality is quite another thing entirely, but you can only cross this bridge once you come to it.
Note should also be taken of the fact that it won't necessarily be you that causes an accident, again, as mentioned, bikes are difficult to spot, or at least a frightening number of people seem to have trouble spotting them, and a quick search on this forum would reveal a startling array of horrifying injuries and mangled machines caused by the inattention of the other party.
Out of curiosity, why is it you think you want a bike? I personally would say it's not something to be got into lightly, on a whim as such.
It's a very selfish and involving hobby. You will put your girlfriend and parents through a lot of worry. At first it'll be every time you go out. Then it'll be every time you're out slightly later than you said.
Then, after a very long period of getting used to the idea, they'll start to accept it, and your life will become a bit easier again, until one of them sees a bike accident, or even a bike doing something that looks a bit dangerous, which will remind them of you and your mortality.
All of this is without you having to make any sort of phone call beginning with "now promise me you won't freak out," which, believe me, puts you right back to the beginning again, let alone not being in a position to make that call.
This is not to say you shouldn't start riding, just be aware of it.
Biking is a fantastic hobby, and a ridiculously addictive one at that, but you certainly should never, ever be under the impression that there's little to worry about, or that you're in as safe a situation as you would be in a car. That level of healthy paranoia is what keeps most of us alive.
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98% of women hate bikes 1% are ok with them and the other 1% ride them.
The bird im seeing at the moment doesn't like them, tells me to get a car. Only one answer there and that's stfu.
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If you do what she says this one time, you will for ever be known as "That lad who is pussywhipped" and she will do it everytime you do something she doesnt know about, like, agree with etc
Do you want that tag?
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Get some quotes for car insurance, that'll do the job. 
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replace..How long have you been with the gf?Defo wouldn't let mine stop me from getting a bike, would be hard as i've had a ped for two years and passed mod1 but the point is still there..kinda..My guess is if you let her stop you, you will regret it at some point 
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Your girlfriend is right. Riding a bike, you are 30 (thirty) times as likely to be killed per mile travelled than driving a car.
And that's on average. The highest risks are old blokes on sports bikes, and young blokes with little experience. That's you.
Plenty of chaps here will tell you that they started riding young and lived. Nobody will tell you that they started young and died, or that they now eat through a straw and pee into a bag. See if you can work out why.
Honestly? At 17 I wouldn't have been safe to ride a bike. Of course, 17-year-old me wouldn't have believed that, because he knew everything and had excellent judgement and cat like reflexes. 17-year-old-me was an idiot though, and that was 21 years ago with less traffic on the roads, travelling more slowly.
So go ahead and ride if you want. It's a great lark, and you'll get a better girlfriend in no time. But please, please understand that you will be be far the most vulnerable road user, and take your safety seriously.
The CBT (Compulsory Basic Training) course will teach you only the bare minimum needed to ride the bike, and almost nothing of how to actually use the road. I would recommend that you do your theory test first, then get some more training and start working towards passing your test rather than just doing the CBT and riding on Loser plates indefinitely.
Budget a minimum of £200 for protective gear: a brand new well fitting highly rated helmet in white or silver, new or good condition used motorcycle specific leather or cordura textile jacket, trousers, boots and gloves, with CE armour in the knees, hips, elbows, shoulders and back. And wear high-vis gear. You'll have the piss ripped out of you, but at least that means you're being seen.
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| Rogerborg wrote: | Honestly? At 17 I wouldn't have been safe to ride a bike. Of course, 17-year-old me wouldn't have believed that, because he knew everything and had excellent judgement and cat like reflexes. 17-year-old-me was an idiot though |
Everything this bloke said, but particularly this bit.
I was a menace to myself and everyone around me when I first got behind the wheel at 17, and I get honest to God shivers down my spine when I think of some of the things I thought at the time were sound judgement calls, and this is all before we get anywhere near the subject of 'not wearing my seatbelt makes me look cool,' which must have entered my testosterone misted mind at some stage.
I'm 24 now, I've been driving 7 years, many cars, many accidents to learn from, I drive 1000 miles a week through my job, which I need my clean (lord alone knows how) license to keep.
Has this experience given me the maturity and road experience to handle a bike that does what mine does?
Possibly. Just.
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Less likely to crash because you're smaller and paying fuck loads of attention.
More likely to hurt yourself if you DO crash.
Ignore her.
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