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X9-rider
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 02 Mar 2011    Post subject: What bike ? Reply with quote

Hi

What bike would people recommend for some one on CBT, i have got rid of the Scooter, and looking for something different, what would people recommend ? its got to be able to do the test, so must be A2 bike!

options iam considering so far :

4 Strokes = Hyosung GT125R / Hyosung Comet 125
2 Strokes = Aprilla RS 125 / Gilera SC 125

both the Hyosungs i have tested ride and are not slow can reach 80mph on the dash reading and are reliable, but parts are very expensive, and as for the Aprila RS 125 after reading reviews there fast for 100+ but parts are hard to come by and are expensive, the Gilera SC125 acording to reviews is more reliable than the Rs125....

Anyway whats peoples views or recommend other bikes if you know one better ?


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PostPosted: 20:57 - 02 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cg125 I have 3 and love them to bits ride them more than the big bikes
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X9-rider
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 02 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello

I had a Honda CG And did my Motorbike test on that passed MOD 1 but failed MOD 2.

I found the CG125 easy to ride and nippy at filtering but find it slow with only tops at 60mph, one reaon why i sold my Cg right after my test.

It would be useful having a CG125 if only for the test only, but want one to use for work as well as weekend rides with mates.

I hear the CB125 is better than the CG speed wise ?
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 02 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed with above, cheapest CG you can find, passed my full test with it. Then just sell it on after and get something bigger, save your money.

Its speedy enough to get your through the test, mine did and it was a 1977 one! Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 02 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The RS is great, but you really need to work with the gears and run it on proper expensive oil.

The Hyosung is also nice... but its still a 125.

Just get a cheap shit chinese to get through your test and get a bigger one Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:05 - 02 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a friend with a 80's CB125RS and that is nippy! Shocked i was surprised, it will hit 70 at a push and has decent acceleration because its light Very Happy
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 02 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moo. wrote:
I have a friend with a 80's CB125RS and that is nippy! Shocked i was surprised, it will hit 70 at a push and has decent acceleration because its light Very Happy


My mate Nemo bought a CB125TDC 1983... its quite fast Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 02 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 for CG great bike not trying to be anything else
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 02 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr.kris wrote:
Cg125 I have 3 and love them to bits ride them more than the big bikes


lets be honest, you probably have 1 complete one but the parts are spread over 3 frames Laughing
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PostPosted: 03:11 - 03 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a CG Laughing I could swear somebody else said that, and as for speed? It can do 90 because the speedo told me so Razz Laughing (it really can't)
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PostPosted: 04:03 - 03 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

125 on CBT, you want something that makes getting your licence as easy as possible. That while you do that is as easy and cheap top live with as it can be. As hassle free, and reliable as possible. and when you are done with it, easy to flog on, and get as much of your money back as possible.

Forget looks, forget performance, forget finding a bargain.

Solution?

YBR125

Yes, CG's are good too, as are many other bikes of differing vintages, BUT: cut & pasted from very similar Q on Newbie board:

Teflon-Mike wrote:
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One 'feature' to look for on a learner bike is the gear lever.....

The sporty 125's often have a gear lever that has a rod and linkage between it and the shaft on the engine that actually changes the gears, where the commuter bikes have a lever that bolts directly on to the shaft on the engine.

Having the gear lever on the shaft means that theres no 'play' in the linkage between where your foot moved the lever and the bits inside the engine paddling cogs about to swap gears.

Consequently when LEARNING gears, it gives much more 'feel' to help you know what your doing, making it easier.

Not all sporty bikes have linkages, but its one of those things that follows through, the simpler and less sophisticated the bike, the better chance you have that it will give you more feed back and make learning on it easier.

And the Commuter Learners like CG or YBR are excellent in this respect, which is why the Schools all use them. They are simple, easy to ride, easy to master, durable, robust, and easy to live with.

They aren't overly glamourouse, exiting or stylish, but who cares.... if they make it as easy for you to pass your test as possible, you can flog the thing on, and have any sort of more inspiring, more exiting, more stylish bike you like...... Learner bike! you JUST want something that will make it as EASY and un painful as possible to get to grips with riding, and see you through test.

My top choice of the moment, based on all round virtue is the YBR125. Its new enough you can find a good one, and not as over priced as CG's tend to be. They do the job admirably, for as little outlay as is needed, and can be sold on readily with little loss to fund a bigger bike.

CG's are pretty useful, but out of production some while now, the 'pool' of good bikes is shrinking, but prices are holding, while the average standard of what you get for your money dropping.

Chinese CG copies, can do the job, provided you know what your getting, but unfortunately, while cheap new, tend to lack a little lustre in use, and can give niggles like nuts and bolts coming undone, but for all teh saving on price, getting a brand new one for teh price of a second hand CG or YBR, after test, they dont sell easily and certainly not for sensible money, so can prove incredibly frustrating and expensive, comparititively.

Older cheaper bikes, are pot luck, value for money, reliability and performance wise. There are good bikes out there, but you have to be pretty clued up to find one, more clued up and exceptionally lucky to find a 'real' bargain.

Meanwhile, rough guide:

Anything with knobly tyres, is probably best avoided. On/Off road bikes are a compromised design from the start, and thats not what you want to make life easy for you to learn on and get through test. Tyres illustrate that well. Block treads are a compromise between tarmac grip and mud 'bite', you wont get both, and its on tarmac where you'll have to impress an examiner, and I personally wouldn't want the handical of having to do my E stop on block treads. If you like Dirt bikes, fine, get a commuter, pass test, go buy a DR350 or XR400 or something, that you don't have to weave through cones or do trick riding infront of an examiner on.

Anything with fairings, is best avoided. They're kiddie go kwikly machines. Only they aren't any kwiker than a commuter, most of teh time, if actually Learner Legal. Nice looks, but restricted steering, cramped racer crouch riding possition, again, all makes it harder work doing teh control stuff mastering gears and weaving through cones. If you want to go kwik, get a commuter, get licence, go get a propper kwik bike with more than 125cc top shove it along!

Anything with high handlebars, chrome or tassles... best avoided! Cruisers have long wheel bases low seats and lazy steering geometry. They really don't make control excersizes like the cones or anything easy on you. They take a LOT of unnecessary effort to make them do that kind of thing, and they just dont have the balence or poise to do it themselves. Again, if you like that style of bike, get a commuter, pass test, go buy a Virago or whatever.

Leaves commuters VERY MUCH the best bet, and the YBR probably at the top of the pile. If you can stretch to a newer bike, then the recent CG replacement, the CBF125 may be worth a look, but expensive.


In essence, dont mugger about, over analysing it all, or trying to get clever, and doing it all right here right now. JUST get a YBR, get some training, get your tests done, then you can flog the YBR and the world is pretty much your oyster, and you can start looking at any of hundreds of bikes for what the YBR was worth, that DON'T have to be easy to ride, boring, sensible or cone freindly, and can be as quick or as slow or as stylish or as ugly, or as interesting or exiting as your wallet and sense of sensibility dictates, but devoid of licencing constraints.
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