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PostPosted: 18:58 - 13 Mar 2011    Post subject: almax series 3 or series 4 Reply with quote

im looking to buy an almax chain and i will be carrying it somehow to and from work on the back of the bike. which should i go for and why?

i dont mind paying the extra for the series 4 if its better
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PostPosted: 19:09 - 13 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

16mm vs 19mm

with 19mm I believe there are basically no cropeprs that can open wide enough to use properly on the links. Therefore (aside from the fact they're bigger) it would be harder to crop it.

But it weighs a ton by all accounts, so realistically the 16mm would be better if you really are going to carry it on a daily basis. I'm sure the 16mm would be just as likely to deter the average scrote as the 19mm one.

what bike's it for?
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 13 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

chakras wrote:
16mm vs 19mm

with 19mm I believe there are basically no cropeprs that can open wide enough to use properly on the links. Therefore (aside from the fact they're bigger) it would be harder to crop it.

But it weighs a ton by all accounts, so realistically the 16mm would be better if you really are going to carry it on a daily basis. I'm sure the 16mm would be just as likely to deter the average scrote as the 19mm one.

what bike's it for?


its just a cheap £600 job but once i get myself sorted it will be used on a new bike so i dont want to buy another cheap in few months time
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 13 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

lee8040 wrote:
chakras wrote:
16mm vs 19mm

with 19mm I believe there are basically no cropeprs that can open wide enough to use properly on the links. Therefore (aside from the fact they're bigger) it would be harder to crop it.

But it weighs a ton by all accounts, so realistically the 16mm would be better if you really are going to carry it on a daily basis. I'm sure the 16mm would be just as likely to deter the average scrote as the 19mm one.

what bike's it for?


its just a cheap £600 job but once i get myself sorted it will be used on a new bike so i dont want to buy another cheap in few months time


Get the series 3. It's heavy enough.
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 13 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the series 4 is really only to be used in one place, like say your garage, to a ground anchor. I think most people that buy it don't think it's practical to carry on a daily basis, and you'll probably regret it.
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 13 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

just bought a series 3
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 13 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Series 3 is leagues beyond most high street chains anyway, I'd strongly recommend getting the squire padlock and US10 tailpack combo btw, the lock is rock solid whilst the tailpack is perfect for carrying the thing without flapping everywhere/falling the bits under the weight of it all Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 13 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recommend a series 3 if for travel. I have both and the series 3 is solid, and weighs a lot less. 16 mm is thinner, but still better than all other chains IMO.

The series 4 is just too thick, and yes it is possible to carry when they offer a back pack, but the series 3 is that little bit better to handle.
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 13 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

IIRC, Ride magazine managed to get through a Series 4 very quickly. Almax wouldn't believe them and they had a falling out....
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 13 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

defblade wrote:
IIRC, Ride magazine managed to get through a Series 4 very quickly. Almax wouldn't believe them and they had a falling out....


Got a link?

To the OP, if you want to move the chain, get a series 3. That's heavy enough, believe me Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 13 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rather than lug it to and from work, why not just leave it chained up round a pole at work?
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 13 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

defblade wrote:
IIRC, Ride magazine managed to get through a Series 4 very quickly. Almax wouldn't believe them and they had a falling out....


With croppers and a large fat bastard?

With an angle grinder I have no doubt, tho if they come that prepared and determined, nothing is going to stop them.

I'd like to see the specifics, preferably in video form.
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PostPosted: 00:26 - 14 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

defblade wrote:
IIRC, Ride magazine managed to get through a Series 4 very quickly. Almax wouldn't believe them and they had a falling out....


That was not with bolt croppers.

I spoke to the Almax designer himself ( small company ) and he explained that it was with an electrical instrument.

He also mentioned that Ride are bias at times too, if you advertise with them then can possibly rate a few areas higher also.
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PostPosted: 00:29 - 14 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgot what it was, but definitely Almax wanted to make a statement about not many of those machines are used at all in bike thiefs, therefore how can that be the main way to do the ranking.
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PostPosted: 00:29 - 14 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

lllN30lll wrote:
Rather than lug it to and from work, why not just leave it chained up round a pole at work?


Because superglue in the padlock is cheap, easy and effective way of nicking your bike if you do that. You don't want to make it too easy!
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 14 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ingah wrote:
lllN30lll wrote:
Rather than lug it to and from work, why not just leave it chained up round a pole at work?


Because superglue in the padlock is cheap, easy and effective way of nicking your bike if you do that. You don't want to make it too easy!


Or, more scary rather than just stopping you using the lock and chain.... if they've got all night, they may pull back the cloth cover, remove a link and replace with a cable tie - next day you think you've locked your bike up all nice and safe, but the chain fails with a quick Stanley knife.....
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 14 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

MinhDinh wrote:


He also mentioned that Ride are bias at times too, if you advertise with them then can possibly rate a few areas higher also.


Ride are as crooked as a £9 note. You only have to apply a modicum of intellegence to see that from the results of their tests. Iirc their motto was 'tells it like it is', it should be 'tells it how we're paid to tell it'.
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 14 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

lllN30lll wrote:
Rather than lug it to and from work, why not just leave it chained up round a pole at work?


or in your locker at work, desk, office space whatever.
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 14 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

0ddball wrote:
MinhDinh wrote:


He also mentioned that Ride are bias at times too, if you advertise with them then can possibly rate a few areas higher also.


Ride are as crooked as a £9 note. You only have to apply a modicum of intellegence to see that from the results of their tests. Iirc their motto was 'tells it like it is', it should be 'tells it how we're paid to tell it'.


Probably. I only bought a magazine a few times when I started out biking.

Now I prefer to read and ask on here.
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 15 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

defblade wrote:
lllN30lll wrote:
Rather than lug it to and from work, why not just leave it chained up round a pole at work?


Or, more scary rather than just stopping you using the lock and chain.... if they've got all night, they may pull back the cloth cover, remove a link and replace with a cable tie - next day you think you've locked your bike up all nice and safe, but the chain fails with a quick Stanley knife.....


This happened to my mate on his pushbike. Pikey bastards did exactly that, replaced a link with a cable tie over the weekend came back and had away with £1500 worth of road bike the next day.

Go series 3.
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