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G
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PostPosted: 01:07 - 15 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes; as ever with my quickly scribbled posts, the whole sentence is a tad lacking in finesse, frankly!
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PostPosted: 01:23 - 15 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have some karma for being non argumentative.

For a change.

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PostPosted: 02:30 - 15 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, it should have a comma before and after it. Wink

I only ever once spat the ramp out with the throttle and this was in 2.5yrs delivering and collecting bikes in vans. I was loading a crashed R6 in and we dropped a bolt through our ramp into the rear of the van floor to stop this from happening, the bolt snapped though. I always used throttle to get the bike up and stood alongside it and jumped in. The bolt snapped, ramp spat out and I was left holding an R6 on the front brake with the back wheel hanging out of the back of the van, thankfully were some builders within shouting distance to push it fully in.
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PostPosted: 02:39 - 15 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
Actually, it should have a comma before and after it. Wink



Correctamundo!

You're a smart mother fucker Brett.
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G
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PostPosted: 09:38 - 15 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
Actually, it should have a comma before and after it. Wink

Depends on the meaning I was trying to convey Wink. However, I don't think both before and after would have flowed appropriately for the latter part of the sentence.
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thegubner
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PostPosted: 10:15 - 15 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Phoenix wrote:
Actually, it should have a comma before and after it. Wink

Depends on the meaning I was trying to convey Wink. However, I don't think both before and after would have flowed appropriately for the latter part of the sentence.


I have this dilemma with comma placement, all too often.
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PostPosted: 10:19 - 15 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
However, I don't think both before and after would have flowed appropriately for the latter part of the sentence.

I don't think that you should start a sentence with the word ''however'' Wink
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PostPosted: 10:21 - 15 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raffles wrote:
G wrote:
However, I don't think both before and after would have flowed appropriately for the latter part of the sentence.

I don't think that you should start a sentence with the word ''however'' Wink


Technically maybe (though I'm unsure), but the sentence although new was being construed as conversation, where it would fit in perfectly.
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PostPosted: 18:20 - 15 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the advice guys, Ive hired a van with a tail lift (the bike is within lifting capacity!) and im going to strap it to the side with plenty of padding etc. and hopefully this should hold the bike in place!

Thanks for all the help guys! Ill post when I get it back safe Smile
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MarJay
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 15 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about this for solving a problem that didn't really exist?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tFy1pjH0s0

The only use I can see for that is if you want to steal or reposess bikes...

Otherwise even I can use an ordinary bike ramp with a bit of practise...
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 15 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You still have to wheel the bike on to it.
Seems to be a rather poorer version of various tail lifts available.
A normal tail lift, a disabled tail lift. Also seen some bike specific looking ones. Paul Rosso (PR track bike hire) had one in his van and seen a few others - it's just under half the width of the van and stored to one side. Comes out on an arm and lays the platform on the floor. So just wheel the bike on, press a button and it's in the van, still level with no faffing.
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PostPosted: 00:50 - 16 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

computid wrote:
Thanks for all the advice guys, Ive hired a van with a tail lift (the bike is within lifting capacity!) and im going to strap it to the side with plenty of padding etc. and hopefully this should hold the bike in place!

Thanks for all the help guys! Ill post when I get it back safe Smile


Pity Ive only just seen this as I have a landy and a bike trailer and live close to you. If you pay for the diesel I'll pick your bike up for you but you have already hired the van. Anyway, If you need ratchet straps I have a shed load. I live in MK. Give me a shout if you need them.
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PostPosted: 04:23 - 20 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, we moved the bike on thursday and all went well, it didnt move an inch in the van Very Happy

This is what we did:

1) Put bike on tail lift, you'll need someone to help you with this as it is a VERY tight fit on a 6ft tail lift. It takes a 15 point turn to get it in the van so take someone with you Smile

2) wheel bike into van, I used the left side of the van as the exhaust is on the right on the bike, I had to remove the wing mirror to get it in the corner but thats not an issue. Get the bike as close to the wall as you can and put the sidestand down, this SHOULD stop the bike banging into the wall.

3) Lock on the front break. We did this with a torn off strip of jeans (to protect the grip) and then wrapped it in thin rope. This kept the front wheel locked nicely.

4) Make sure the bike is out of gear. I guess you could park it in first but I dont like the idea of putting that bit of extra stress on the transmission.

5) Tie a thick rope from the rear swing arm to the van side rail and make sure its tight.

6) Tie a piece of rope to the sidestand and then to the front fork to stop it popping up if the bike jumps.

7) Put padding between the tank and the wall of the van to stop them knocking. I also wedged some between the handlebars and the side to stop it denting the van.

8) Tie the front forks to the side of the van

9) Tie the handlebars to the side of the van, first to the bottom rail, then to the first grip, then too the second grip, then to the top rail.

10) Tie the other side of the swing arm to side of the van going through the wheel so as not to scratch the fairings.

11) Tie down anything else you may feel needs tieing down. I probably went a little overboard but id rather be safe then sorry.

12) My big worry was that the bike would slide out in the van so I tied an old bench press board (steel reinforced wood) on the side of bike. This was probably unnecessary but I did it anyway for my own piece of mind.

I then covered the bike with dust sheets and bungied them down to protect the bike from stuff that could be flying around in the van.

I probably went a little overkill but hey, rather safe then sorry!

A photo of the bike in the van is attached.

Thanks for all the offers of help guys, If id seen some of your posts a couple of days earlier I might have taken you up on the offer! Thanks anyway.

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PostPosted: 12:38 - 20 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I'll stick to a plank of wood for a ramp to wheel the bike into the van and the 2 ratchet strap method... Seems like it's less of a crystal maze type challenge that way!

Glad you got it home though!
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 20 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done this twice using rented vans. Once for a TS50, the other for a CB125T.

Neither fell over.. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 20 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You used STRING?

/me faints.
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 20 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
Go to Shiply

https://www.shiply.com/

100% you could get somebody to deliver it for cheaper than hiring a van and playing the diesel.

I bought MattSpratts KTM he lives 280 odd miles away from me, I got the bike delivered for £70.

Somebody picked up and delivered a bike to me travelling 280 miles for £70.

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Seriously be very careful before agreeing to send your bike by someone you've found on sites like Shiply, the very nature of this site means you'll probably go for the lowest bid, you may well get a courier thats never moved a bike before, ( I belong to a courier forum where there was a van driver asking for advice on moving a bike he was booked to because he'd never done it before) and dont be fooled into thinking his Goods in Transit will cover your bike becuase that comes under Vehicle transportation and not covered on GIT insurance !!!!

SOS recovery are now doing bike movement (only around England & wales at the mo) for £150, most are seasoned bikers!
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 20 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
You used STRING?

/me faints.


Wheres the string? We used thick polypropylene rope to tie the actual bike down and then a thinner white polypropylene rope to give it extra support.

It worked quite well really...
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 20 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

bet it wouldnt have if you had to break hard!
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 20 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eggs Benedict wrote:
bet it wouldnt have if you had to break hard!


We did break hard, and went round some rather tight bends on really bad roads (Would have been fun if I was riding!) and it still didnt move.

Each to his own I guess.
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PostPosted: 13:27 - 21 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ideally it should be like this:

G wrote:
Wouldn't recommend doing it at all, however, until you're at least confident using the ramp not on the bike!


It parenthesises the 'however' and the sentence makes sense without it there too.
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