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DrDonnyBrago
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 16 Mar 2011    Post subject: Banking scam - how? Reply with quote

Hi, just went to log in to natwest banking and this screen came up:


Obviously it is a details stealing scam but how did whoever made it get it to come up from the natwest site after entering my customer number?

I entered a load of crap into each box and it went away bringing me to the next 'genuine' Natwest window where it asks for pin and password (didn't enter them by the way). I haven't used this PC for banking before so there is no risk of me giving details away already, do I have something dodgy on my work PC though? Is it likely to be a phishing scam of the Natwest site?
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 16 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im with Natwest online, Ive just logged into mine - Didnt get that scam.
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 16 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say it could be something sitting waiting for you to access one of several banking websites. try :-
1. update your anitvirus software and run a complete scan.
2. Use adaware or similar tracking and malware detection software and see if you have something lurking in your works PC.

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PostPosted: 14:21 - 16 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

they get you if mis-type the webaddress eg. www.natwets.co.uk

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PostPosted: 14:24 - 16 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have a virus/spyware on your computer.

Run

Malwarebytes
Super Antispyware
MSS
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 16 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Artist wrote:
You have a virus/spyware on your computer.

Run

Malwarebytes
Super Antispyware
MSS


And also Hijackthis

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PostPosted: 16:07 - 16 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

most common cause is an infected pc or image on the site contains some code that is looking for the entry on the site and when it detects it pops open with that box.

very nasty.

i do hope you contacted natwest and let them know of the issue
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 27 Mar 2011    Post subject: Re: Banking scam - how? Reply with quote

DonnyBrago wrote:
Hi, just went to log in to natwest banking and this screen came up:


Obviously it is a details stealing scam but how did whoever made it get it to come up from the natwest site after entering my customer number?

I entered a load of crap into each box and it went away bringing me to the next 'genuine' Natwest window where it asks for pin and password (didn't enter them by the way). I haven't used this PC for banking before so there is no risk of me giving details away already, do I have something dodgy on my work PC though? Is it likely to be a phishing scam of the Natwest site?


Bit of a bump, but this is called a 'Man in the middle attack', what somebody does is infiltrate your network and place a fake server on it that redirects certain domains to there website. This fools you into thinking that your on the Banks website when really your not, its a common thing to occur on networks with high usage and not-that-great security.
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 27 Mar 2011    Post subject: Re: Banking scam - how? Reply with quote

computid wrote:

Bit of a bump, but this is called a 'Man in the middle attack', what somebody does is infiltrate your network and place a fake server on it that redirects certain domains to there website. This fools you into thinking that your on the Banks website when really your not, its a common thing to occur on networks with high usage and not-that-great security.


Strictly speaking, a MITM attack would sit between the bank and the user and would pass data to-and-from the two sites, but changing what was returned on the fly (so, for example, you'd see the correct balance instead of the balance minus the amount you've just been ripped off by).

This is technically difficult because you're trying to fool both the user and the banking service and of limited use- for example, in order to get money out (assuming something like pinsentry is in use), you need to persuade the user to enter the authentication details for your particular transfer.

What this is is a simple redirection; a piece of malware is redirecting requests for a bank to it's own site, recording the details and then sending the user back on their merry way. I would imagine the aim of the game is to gather enough information to encode some cards, set up some direct debits and the like, rather than OMG MASSIVE HAX.
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