70 stone + family

pepperami · Super Spammer Joined: 17 Jan 2010 Karma :

I saw in the news today about a family that weighed over 70 stone between them and there was only three of them Shocked

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They have cost the NHS over 1 million pounds in health care Twisted Evil

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I`ve got no problem with people being big, thats not an issue, but when someone is shoveling take-aways into thier greedy fat mouths and making themselves unhealthy at my expense I`m not best pleased Sad

I read the article and they admitted thier lifestyle was the cause of thier ill-health Rolling Eyes

I find that type of behaviour very selfish.

I`m a big lad but at least I know when to stop, why could`nt they stop?

whats your views mighty BCF?
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Chalky. · World Chat Champion Joined: 30 Jun 2010 Karma :

I don't see why alcohol and fags are taxed so much, and really bad for you food isn't.

Both don't do the body much good and ultimately cost the state.

hellkat · Super Spammer Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

The fatty-bashing thread is over there.

https://onemorecup.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/finger-pointing-time.jpg

Obviously all the REAL news is being kept out of the newspapers, and they are reverting to NHS statistics (famously a bit dodgy)
Rolling Eyes

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hellkat · Super Spammer Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

Or even just someone who picks their nose too much (trust me, I have typed letters about just such people who clutter up my boss's nose clinic).
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Frost · World Chat Champion Joined: 26 May 2004 Karma :

No the small amount of money motorcyclists cost the NHS in broken pelvises and gravel rash is easily offset by the abundant supply of spare organs they provide.

hellkat · Super Spammer Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

I'm in no position to criticise (obviously), its taken me years of pie eating to achieve this figure... but even I tend to go "Yeah alright, I've had enough", or "Yeah, time to mind out, get some exercise, and stick at this size of jeans instead of allowing myself to slob out in tracky bottoms".

But there's no denying I scoff in an Olympic fashion, and always have done. I love the noms and it shows. I like to feed people up, too, turn them on with good food of all descriptions ... its a love thing, somehow connected with some sort of PECULIAR maternal instinct.

So, aside from all the cultural arguments that one could give (fat, ugly, etc etc) being bandied around in the other thread, I have to say that there has only been one instance in which I actually was revolted at watching someone who could not stop themselves from eating.

I once was present when a mate of mine was eating [something chocolatey, I think] I had never seen someone actually eat and be UNABLE TO STOP THEMSELVES. She literally had her hands full of food and was shovelling it in, practically with no comprehension of what she was doing.

Its engrossing to watch, but quite scary and very worrying when you see the lack of self-control take over on the face of someone that you thought you knew.
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pepperami · Super Spammer Joined: 17 Jan 2010 Karma :

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hellkat · Super Spammer Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

OK so its not about the looks, but it IS still about consciousness of oneself.

Which is different from self-conscious.

People are not self-aware, they are in a lot of denial about how they really are, and how they are perceived, they don't realise how they look in their head is not how they look to other people.

Plus, many people, born and brought up within the context of the NHS and (especially in the last 20 years) within the context of the welfare state pandering to their every need. They have no reason NOT to believe in their complete and utter RIGHT to free health treatment. So they see no need to adjust their activities to improve their health.
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hellkat · Super Spammer Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

Although, having said that, I need to remind myself that AMERICANS, traditionally even fatter than us, still have to pay for their own health care.

So that blows that argument of mine out of the water, really, doesn't it ... LOL
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Phoenix · Twisted Firestarter Joined: 01 Aug 2002 Karma :

The only thing with fatness is that it seems to be treated more like a disease than an addiction or self control issue, whereas smoking is treated soley as an addiction. When you label something as a disease or condition people tend to throw there arms up and claim there's nothing they can do about it, they've got an excuse.

They go after the fast food joints but even then the suggestion is that they are responsible for it and not the person who chooses to consume the junk food.

hellkat · Super Spammer Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

But in most situations, addiction is almost always an act of will, rather than of physiological craving.
(apart from the obviousness of opiates)

Plenty of very self-aware people can even get addicted to exercise Shocked

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pepperami · Super Spammer Joined: 17 Jan 2010 Karma :

WildGoose · White Van Man Joined: 20 Mar 2002 Karma :

This is perhaps why we shouldn't have a public health system. It stops people being outraged by things which are nothing to do with them. Rolling Eyes

I hate that feeling of sitting in A+E and watching everyone who comes through the door, deciding if they are ill enough to be there, and then if they aren't (in your own eyes) "get out, stop wasting my money, pisstakers". We must have all done it, and by reading daily mail type headlines we all do it even when we aren't there.

Wanna get fat, smoke, drink, be dangerous, fine but you pay for your own healthcare to sort you out... (through insurance, whatever).

It might also promote (might) a better ability to choose the healthcare you want, rather than what the NHS thinks you should recieve, based on how it benefits them, society or their current supplies/ surplus wonderdrug.

The only reason nobody in a position of power ever has any leanings towards binning it, is because it seems half the fucking world are in the employ of the NHS.
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pepperami · Super Spammer Joined: 17 Jan 2010 Karma :

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pepperami · Super Spammer Joined: 17 Jan 2010 Karma :

yes Mr Goose I did read the rest of your post and I think you`re just as put out about the spongers & wasters as I am.

And I agree that the good folk get shafted just because they are a less of a strain to the NHS.
I believe in the idea of the NHS, sadly it seems to be human nature for some people to abuse a fantastic resource.

I think there is something in what you say about people paying for health cover if thier lifestyle is proven to be a drain on resources/selfish/dangerous.
Who would make these judgements?... can you imagine the uproar Shocked

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