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It's all here, if you take it to Aprilia to sort out you will need to make friends with your bank manager.
https://www.corseperformance.co.uk/apriliaservicing/30-rs-125
I would buy the Haynes workshop manual and do it your self.
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| Posted: 20:01 - 27 Mar 2011 Post subject: Re: Aprillia rs125 service intervals |
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| JPx1994 wrote: | Hi guys,
As my 17th birthday is just around the corner, I want to buy an rs125 07-10 plate, Just wanted to know how often the service intervals are and how much services generally cost because i'm only a student on a part time wage. Any feedback would be appreciated, thanks. |
I believe it's something like piston rings every 5K, top end every 10K, and bottom end every 20K. Ignore these, especially the piston rings, at your peril. And only use some top oil (an owner will be along with the name soon), at ~£11 per litre. And do not thrash from cold!
This just the extra stuff, the basics are on top of course.
It's an expensive bike to run. More so than even a big cc commuter.[/u]
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If your not mechanically minded I would take it to your local garage and ask for a service stamp. Full service history will always increase the re-sale value. Aprilia's are built to fail at around 6 to 7 thousand miles if you keep them restricted, De-restrict it and this will be much less, 2 to 3 thousand miles. I hate them, I have owned two and both of them jumped out of 5th gear. I rebuilt the top end of one too, absolute nightmare to work on.
You will also lose a thousand straight away upon taking it out of the show room, a year or two later you will lose another thousand.
I would have gone for the YZF 125 my self, it as nice looking and as big as the YZF R6, 600 CC.
It will last a lot longer and you will get a lot more money back for it.
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| Posted: 20:13 - 27 Mar 2011 Post subject: Re: Aprillia rs125 service intervals |
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| JPx1994 wrote: | Hi guys,
As my 17th birthday is just around the corner, I want to buy an rs125 07-10 plate, Just wanted to know how often the service intervals are and how much services generally cost because i'm only a student on a part time wage. Any feedback would be appreciated, thanks. |
I honestly wouldn't bother. They rarely work, when they do there great bikes to ride, but when they don't there pigs to work on. It will cost you an absolute fortune to keep running, something like the value of the bike over a two year period.
You would be much better off with a more reliable 125, a yamaha or something as opposed to an RS.
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I honestly wouldn't bother. They rarely work, when they do there great bikes to ride, but when they don't there pigs to work on. It will cost you an absolute fortune to keep running, something like the value of the bike over a two year period.
You would be much better off with a more reliable 125, a yamaha or something as opposed to an RS. |
Rarely work because kids get hold of them and can't look after them? Just that I have had mine fully rebuilt when I bought mine, and so far I have done around 3,5k miles and the only thing that has let me down so far is the gear linkage nut.
Pigs to work on? If you don't know what you are doing, but really they aren't you can be at the engine in about 10 minutes, if you know what you are doing they are a piece of piss to work on.
Cost a fortune to run? Relative really you are buying a highly strung Italian 2stroke which is essentially a race bike with lights, that's akin to complaining your Ducatti costs too much to service, and actually my RS owes me little yes I had it rebuilt and put new carb on it and a few other bits, but really it owes me fuel and 2 stroke oil and a chain, and a rebuild doesn't cost that much at all.
Reliable Yamaha, yeah probably but a Yamaha isn't a race bike with lights on, it is a 4 stroke so it is slower, and you can't de-restrict it to bigger bhp unlike the RS, I have always been tempted to take an R125 out to compare it to the RS, but I think the RS will still win hands down in handling and giggle factor, the RS also has bigger tyres and the alloy frame is superb.
You are comparing chalk and cheese, if you want an everyday bike you get on start, ride back and forth to work uni etc get a CG125.
If you want a bike you can get on, ride back and forth work uni etc and then have fun on the weekend get the YZFR125 or the CBR125 (even though it is comically thin from the front)
If you want a bike which you can use occasionally back and forth to work but want it for weekend fun RS125 all the way.
That said don't buy a new RS125 they are shit, buy and older one for about £900 and then spend a couple of hundred on new brakes, tyres, engine rebuild, new chain and sprockets, oil flush and then use that as it will be so much better than the new ones, which are awful, even though they do like kinda better.
Ignore comments from people who say the RS is unreliable as they are usually people who
Have never ridden them and are going on internet hearsay
Have never ridden them and are going on my mates friends aunties uncles mechanics son had one which didn't work because they bought a shitter for lots of money and realised it was dead and didn't want to spend any money on it
Have bought one, and bought one that hasn't been looked after or treated correctly, and refused to spend the money getting rebuild work done on it, even though it costs £300 or so to do, therefore the bike was shit
Bought one, didn't look after it, didn't service it and it died and surprise surprise thought it was unreliable because they couldn't maintain it.
It is like buying a Ducatti, never servicing it, it then breaks down a lot and then you complain they are rubbish and unreliable, you can't run highly tuned machines on a shoe string, and you don't buy them as everyday runners.
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| Posted: 22:10 - 27 Mar 2011 Post subject: Re: Aprillia rs125 service intervals |
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| pits wrote: | | computid wrote: |
I honestly wouldn't bother. They rarely work, when they do there great bikes to ride, but when they don't there pigs to work on. It will cost you an absolute fortune to keep running, something like the value of the bike over a two year period.
You would be much better off with a more reliable 125, a yamaha or something as opposed to an RS. |
Rarely work because kids get hold of them and can't look after them? Just that I have had mine fully rebuilt when I bought mine, and so far I have done around 3,5k miles and the only thing that has let me down so far is the gear linkage nut.
Pigs to work on? If you don't know what you are doing, but really they aren't you can be at the engine in about 10 minutes, if you know what you are doing they are a piece of piss to work on.
Cost a fortune to run? Relative really you are buying a highly strung Italian 2stroke which is essentially a race bike with lights, that's akin to complaining your Ducatti costs too much to service, and actually my RS owes me little yes I had it rebuilt and put new carb on it and a few other bits, but really it owes me fuel and 2 stroke oil and a chain, and a rebuild doesn't cost that much at all.
Reliable Yamaha, yeah probably but a Yamaha isn't a race bike with lights on, it is a 4 stroke so it is slower, and you can't de-restrict it to bigger bhp unlike the RS, I have always been tempted to take an R125 out to compare it to the RS, but I think the RS will still win hands down in handling and giggle factor, the RS also has bigger tyres and the alloy frame is superb.
You are comparing chalk and cheese, if you want an everyday bike you get on start, ride back and forth to work uni etc get a CG125.
If you want a bike you can get on, ride back and forth work uni etc and then have fun on the weekend get the YZFR125 or the CBR125 (even though it is comically thin from the front)
If you want a bike which you can use occasionally back and forth to work but want it for weekend fun RS125 all the way.
That said don't buy a new RS125 they are shit, buy and older one for about £900 and then spend a couple of hundred on new brakes, tyres, engine rebuild, new chain and sprockets, oil flush and then use that as it will be so much better than the new ones, which are awful, even though they do like kinda better.
Ignore comments from people who say the RS is unreliable as they are usually people who
Have never ridden them and are going on internet hearsay
Have never ridden them and are going on my mates friends aunties uncles mechanics son had one which didn't work because they bought a shitter for lots of money and realised it was dead and didn't want to spend any money on it
Have bought one, and bought one that hasn't been looked after or treated correctly, and refused to spend the money getting rebuild work done on it, even though it costs £300 or so to do, therefore the bike was shit
Bought one, didn't look after it, didn't service it and it died and surprise surprise thought it was unreliable because they couldn't maintain it.
It is like buying a Ducatti, never servicing it, it then breaks down a lot and then you complain they are rubbish and unreliable, you can't run highly tuned machines on a shoe string, and you don't buy them as everyday runners.
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Having ridden one, and found it rather under powered and sloppy in the corners I can safely say I wouldn't be buying one In a hurry.
Yes, I can see that it could be a bit of fun if your into small engined bikes, but at the end of the day id rather have a reliable 125 or something bigger then an RS just for the sheer cost of keeping it running.
Im not saying flat out don't get one, but unless you can afford to spend the money on a well looked after example, the engine rebuilds, the parts and the servicing then don't even think about it.
Using your example, its like buying a ducati on a shoestring, you can do it, but it wont last long. You have to keep maintaing them and spending the money on servicing and parts which 99% of students don't have. £300 for a top end rebuild may seem like a bit of money here and there to you but to a student that makes up 5% of there tuition fees for a year, or food for a month.
At the end of the day, the OP asked for our feedback and we gave it, hopefully he will be able to make an informed decision on what he has read here and what research he has done elsewhere.
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| pits wrote: | | computid wrote: |
I honestly wouldn't bother. They rarely work, when they do there great bikes to ride, but when they don't there pigs to work on. It will cost you an absolute fortune to keep running, something like the value of the bike over a two year period.
You would be much better off with a more reliable 125, a yamaha or something as opposed to an RS. |
Rarely work because kids get hold of them and can't look after them? Just that I have had mine fully rebuilt when I bought mine, and so far I have done around 3,5k miles and the only thing that has let me down so far is the gear linkage nut.
Pigs to work on? If you don't know what you are doing, but really they aren't you can be at the engine in about 10 minutes, if you know what you are doing they are a piece of piss to work on.
Cost a fortune to run? Relative really you are buying a highly strung Italian 2stroke which is essentially a race bike with lights, that's akin to complaining your Ducatti costs too much to service, and actually my RS owes me little yes I had it rebuilt and put new carb on it and a few other bits, but really it owes me fuel and 2 stroke oil and a chain, and a rebuild doesn't cost that much at all.
Reliable Yamaha, yeah probably but a Yamaha isn't a race bike with lights on, it is a 4 stroke so it is slower, and you can't de-restrict it to bigger bhp unlike the RS, I have always been tempted to take an R125 out to compare it to the RS, but I think the RS will still win hands down in handling and giggle factor, the RS also has bigger tyres and the alloy frame is superb.
You are comparing chalk and cheese, if you want an everyday bike you get on start, ride back and forth to work uni etc get a CG125.
If you want a bike you can get on, ride back and forth work uni etc and then have fun on the weekend get the YZFR125 or the CBR125 (even though it is comically thin from the front)
If you want a bike which you can use occasionally back and forth to work but want it for weekend fun RS125 all the way.
That said don't buy a new RS125 they are shit, buy and older one for about £900 and then spend a couple of hundred on new brakes, tyres, engine rebuild, new chain and sprockets, oil flush and then use that as it will be so much better than the new ones, which are awful, even though they do like kinda better.
Ignore comments from people who say the RS is unreliable as they are usually people who
Have never ridden them and are going on internet hearsay
Have never ridden them and are going on my mates friends aunties uncles mechanics son had one which didn't work because they bought a shitter for lots of money and realised it was dead and didn't want to spend any money on it
Have bought one, and bought one that hasn't been looked after or treated correctly, and refused to spend the money getting rebuild work done on it, even though it costs £300 or so to do, therefore the bike was shit
Bought one, didn't look after it, didn't service it and it died and surprise surprise thought it was unreliable because they couldn't maintain it.
It is like buying a Ducatti, never servicing it, it then breaks down a lot and then you complain they are rubbish and unreliable, you can't run highly tuned machines on a shoe string, and you don't buy them as everyday runners.
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you couldnt have said it better!!! ... 
iv got a m8 that bought a 2nd hand porsche boxter quite cheapish coz it had high mileage ...
and was raging that the service including the brakes service which it needed was £1800.
well thats because its a performance orientated car - not a nissan micra convertible!.
i was told ages ago - in a conversation about cars ...
if you cant afford to buy it new, you cant afford to run it 2nd hand!. - and the porsche is the perfect example of that - if you can afford to buy a new one, well £1800 for a service shudnt even need to be mentioned really.
i wudnt say the same applies to bikes tho!  
get the rs125 - but look after it and itll reward you.
if you not into "looking after it" then get an automatic press and go japanese scooter that ll go forever with just fuel, oil, tyres and brake pads. or a yz125/cg125
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Having ridden one, and found it rather under powered and sloppy in the corners I can safely say I wouldn't be buying one In a hurry.
Yes, I can see that it could be a bit of fun if your into small engined bikes, but at the end of the day id rather have a reliable 125 or something bigger then an RS just for the sheer cost of keeping it running.
Im not saying flat out don't get one, but unless you can afford to spend the money on a well looked after example, the engine rebuilds, the parts and the servicing then don't even think about it.
Using your example, its like buying a ducati on a shoestring, you can do it, but it wont last long. You have to keep maintaing them and spending the money on servicing and parts which 99% of students don't have. £300 for a top end rebuild may seem like a bit of money here and there to you but to a student that makes up 5% of there tuition fees for a year, or food for a month.
At the end of the day, the OP asked for our feedback and we gave it, hopefully he will be able to make an informed decision on what he has read here and what research he has done elsewhere. |
No offence, but you rode a shitter, the RS125 is one of the best handling bikes ever made and sounds restricted as well, get your arse on one with decent tyres, properly setup which has been unrestricted then tell me they are underpowered and sloppy 
But seriously cost, 90mpg, 400 miles to a bottle of oil which is £13 and really treat it right and it shouldn't do you wrong, rebuild is every 10,000k miles if you treat it right, weigh up how many miles you do a year on the bike then weigh up whether you can afford it.
But for everyday commuting I totally and utterly agree with your sentiments, R125 for something sporty or a CG125 for normal everyday riding, you can't run an RS125 as a daily and I would also go for a 4 stroker like you say
Sorry I hate it when people start having a go at the RS when they have never run one properly or been on a decent one , not having a go at you |
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I think i have to jump in here and say I use an NSR for a 100 mile commute 2-3 times a week...
Okay, so the oil adds a little but buy it online and you can get the "good stuff" down to £5-£7 a litre!
For reliability, I would say the NSR is great, 3k-4k miles and only just starting to get some problems (asside having to undo the chops jobs by previous owners).
RS VS NSR would be a better comparison and I think the NSR is a little less highly strung. Rebuilds are less frequent (not by to much though, 7k, 14k, 21k etc etc).
Honda for the win if you ask me! 
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| Posted: 15:09 - 28 Mar 2011 Post subject: Re: Aprillia rs125 service intervals |
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| JPx1994 wrote: | thanks for all the replies guys,
i'm going to have a look at a couple soon because i think i have got my heart set on it and i have the intention to do a test just as soon as my mate has enough money because the place ill do it at is cheaper with 2 people, so i dont really fancy a 4 stroke 125 but do want something nice and sporty but struggling to find anything like that that i can restrict to 33bhp that insurance wont go through the roof. Ive worked out that ill do probably about 7,000 miles in a year i wont thrash it about from cold and try and keep it in top condition and i'm going to pop by a garage that i use for my moped to price up services and rebuilds, etc but i think i will have enough money. |
So your planning to De-restrict it to 33BHP and try to do 7000 Miles a year? You can expect A LOT of top end rebuilds.
But if thats what you want to do, I say good luck to you Sir
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| Posted: 18:47 - 28 Mar 2011 Post subject: Re: Aprillia rs125 service intervals |
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something wrong with yours then, mine does 180 miles before reserve which is pretty much cock on 10 litres
| JPx1994 wrote: | thanks for all the replies guys,
i'm going to have a look at a couple soon because i think i have got my heart set on it and i have the intention to do a test just as soon as my mate has enough money because the place ill do it at is cheaper with 2 people, so i dont really fancy a 4 stroke 125 but do want something nice and sporty but struggling to find anything like that that i can restrict to 33bhp that insurance wont go through the roof. Ive worked out that ill do probably about 7,000 miles in a year i wont thrash it about from cold and try and keep it in top condition and i'm going to pop by a garage that i use for my moped to price up services and rebuilds, etc but i think i will have enough money. |
You think you will have enough money means you wont, sorry take it from someone who is running one regularly, I have just done a mini service on mine and so far I am at £120 in bits alone, brakes, chain, sprockets etc.
Same with anything if you think you can afford to run it you can't simple as that, take it from someone who knows how much an RS costs to run.
You do know how much a de-restriction kit costs for an RS right?
Powervalve isn't cheap £100+ IIRC
Exhaust without a cat £230
Sprockets (sometimes) £100
34mm carb and adaptor £180
Then you want to do 7,000 miles of pretty much every day riding? Not going to happen it will get ruined, get a cheap 4 stroker or an NSR125 you will kill the RS if you think you can afford to run it, I have my heart set on an MV Agusta F3, I can't afford it at the moment, well I can but I can't afford to run it, so I don't have one. |
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PITS has pretty much summed them up...(apart from his mpg being well out & using too much 2t,lol)
but heres my  worth, i have had at least 7 of them have never had any serious issues.(that i havnt caused myself by modifying the f*ck out of them,lol)TH
stick to doing the piston/rings at the specified intervals,using decent parts, good 2t (tts etc) etc.
forget the red herring of dodgy gearboxes & the like....
i commuted all year on them with no issues, so as long as you keep on top of the service stuff, you shouldnt have any problems. (done over 20000km's on one pattern cylinder)
problem is, theres so many shitters out there, been ragged from cold & been owned by those who have very little experience of owning a race 2t.
Parts are plentiful & can be had cheaply if you look around.
the do handle quite well (despite the budget suspension) & do go faster than most other 125's & thats why people buy them.
get a decent one with a 34mm well set up carb & a good exhaust, & theres very few 125's that can touch them....
& theres a wealth of info available on the right forums...
just remember, you cant legally ride a full power one on a cbt.
the mito is a far better bike though.....
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I will fill mine up and reset the clocks to zero and then tell you how much I put in, usually around 10 litres after 150-180 miles depending on riding style
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Oh and I forgot, mostly avoid the 125sportbike forum, as it is full of useless chavs and pretentious old people that just haven't got a clue what they are on about, two of them told me I was talking rubbish for want of a better word that a battery is mostly for just starting a bike and the dynamo/generator etc is actually used for running a vehicle not the battery  |
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