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Dr. DaveJPS
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 29 Mar 2011    Post subject: Maxime Berger's WSBK crash in Race 1 Reply with quote
So i was at WSBK (with a media pass for Bikechatter.co.uk)
and have pieced this together for your delectation.

https://www.davejps.com/crash.gif
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 29 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Haha was a very strange accident.
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 29 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
the Spokes the the rear wheel sheared, the photographer next to me tried to insist it was just the tyre but i could see the spokes in my shots.
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 29 Mar 2011    Post subject: Re: Maxime Berger's WSBK crash in Race 1 Reply with quote
DaveJPS wrote:
So i was at WSBK (with a media pass for Bikechatter.co.uk)
and have pieced this together for your delectation.

https://www.davejps.com/crash.gif


Watching the video on PistonHeads you can clearly see the hub still on the swinging arm, and the spokes in place on the rim.
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 29 Mar 2011    Post subject: Re: Maxime Berger's WSBK crash in Race 1 Reply with quote
MarJay wrote:


Watching the video on PistonHeads you can clearly see the hub still on the swinging arm, and the spokes in place on the rim.


aye i could see in my pics, the bang in the gif is the one i heard that caused me to turn round (as i had "reset" back to the corner)
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 29 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu274/rac3r786/Untitled.jpg

https://gpone.com/index.php/en/news/35-in-evidenza/3265-cerchio-rotto-berger-come-spencer.html

There's another picture on the ducati forum with the centre still on the bike!
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 29 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
rac3r wrote:
https://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu274/rac3r786/Untitled.jpg

https://gpone.com/index.php/en/news/35-in-evidenza/3265-cerchio-rotto-berger-come-spencer.html

There's another picture on the ducati forum with the centre still on the bike!


Man he's leaning the bike nicely and composed but his rear wheel is next to him. Great pic LOL
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 29 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
He must have seen it go past him and thought 'WTF!?' Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 29 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
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He must have seen it go past him and thought 'WTF!?' Laughing


by the time it went past him he was facing the wrong way up the track Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 29 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 29 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
DaveJPS wrote:

by the time it went past him he was facing the wrong way up the track Laughing


Probably even more WTF! Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 29 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
rac3r wrote:
He must have seen it go past him and thought 'WTF!?' Laughing


Funny you should say that. My dad and I out in his car once was overtaken by a wheeltrim. Dad said,"that looks the same as one of mine." Later on we looked, It was one of ours!

Although to this day I cant get my head around how we were overtaken by a wheeltrim that was attached to the wheel turning the same speed as we were moving. I know it has something to do with physics but buggered if I can work it out.
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Funny you should say that. My dad and I out in his car once was overtaken by a wheeltrim. Dad said,"that looks the same as one of mine." Later on we looked, It was one of ours!

Although to this day I cant get my head around how we were overtaken by a wheeltrim that was attached to the wheel turning the same speed as we were moving. I know it has something to do with physics but buggered if I can work it out.


Power to weight ratio.

Spinning at the same speed, but near enough 2 tonnes less to drive!

Think about bikes and cars with the same power. Bikes will accelerate quicker cause of the weight. Same sort of thing.
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PostPosted: 08:34 - 30 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
m0l0t0v wrote:
pinkyfloyd wrote:


Funny you should say that. My dad and I out in his car once was overtaken by a wheeltrim. Dad said,"that looks the same as one of mine." Later on we looked, It was one of ours!

Although to this day I cant get my head around how we were overtaken by a wheeltrim that was attached to the wheel turning the same speed as we were moving. I know it has something to do with physics but buggered if I can work it out.


Power to weight ratio.

Spinning at the same speed, but near enough 2 tonnes less to drive!

Think about bikes and cars with the same power. Bikes will accelerate quicker cause of the weight. Same sort of thing.

except as soon as its not attached it isn't powered, so then is rolling by inertia only?
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PostPosted: 08:51 - 30 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thats the paradox I cant get my head around. Power to weight I understood. No power and it still moved faster. We were traveling at a steady 60. Car was a Lada so cant go much faster. Laughing Must admit though. It was rather humorous.
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https://cdn.bikechatforums.com/files/ducati.jpg

https://cdn.bikechatforums.com/files/ducati-1.jpg

He is so lucky it happened where it did.
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PostPosted: 15:01 - 30 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
No-one seems to have noticed the BMW that clipped the Ducatis rear wheel very early on in the bend. As the Duc applies the power, the wheel spokes sheer.

I blame the BMW's intial impact which obviously fractured the spokes. But still a manufacturing defect, it still should break that easily.
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 30 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Daimo wrote:
No-one seems to have noticed the BMW that clipped the Ducatis rear wheel very early on in the bend. As the Duc applies the power, the wheel spokes sheer.

I blame the BMW's intial impact which obviously fractured the spokes. But still a manufacturing defect, it still should break that easily.


Big ole point right there!
but yeah still it definately is still a manufacturer defect, especially if they said that wheel had only done a few races.
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 30 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
ChowderV4 wrote:


Big ole point right there!
but yeah still it definately is still a manufacturer defect, especially if they said that wheel had only done a few races.


including a 130mph crash at craners the day before. Laughing
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