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| killa |
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 Posted: 14:36 - 30 Mar 2011 Post subject: Bury the Ninja? |
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So the Ninja dropped a valve (80% sure of this from some investigations) The engine won’t even turn over now.
I’m a stumped as to what I want to do with it. Looking on Ebay etc I can see I could get an engine for around £3-400. Obviously this is cheaper than trying to get another bike but I’d be putting a second hand engine in my second hand bike. This would also be cheaper, I imagine, than spending lots of money on trying to repair what I have (I have seen damaged pistons down bore)
Before all this bolIox happened I was going to do the repairs to the fairings as the front and side right, have some damage which lets the rest of the bike down IMO.
Now this is out of the question, do I really want to get the bike back on the road in that sort of condition?
My other option is to sell and to save, I’d need around £2-2500 for my ideal bike as you can imagine my Ninja as it is probably isn’t worth more than a grand.
Bad timing has resulted in me not having £3-400 to throw at the bike so I’m left thinking “Sell the bike, save what I can for another??” ____________________ Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.
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 Posted: 14:56 - 30 Mar 2011 Post subject: Re: Bury the Ninja? |
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Every second hand bike has a second hand engine .
How much do the zx-9r lumps go for, a conversion would make the engine damage seem worthwhile and it the swap seems relatively simple?
Fix it and flog it or fix it and keep it.
Flogging it as it is will fetch you feck all, they can be had for less than £1300 in good nick.
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Thanks for all the input guys, some good points there…and Cansa, yes mate sorry, I just need to get this straight in my head.
I think I’ll go for the second hand lump and then sell her when it’s in.
I’ll sign up to red monkey today  ____________________ Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.
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| chris-red wrote: | No you wouldn't.
You wouldn't even change the pistons unless they where damaged (likely in the cylinder with the dropped valve) or worn, doubtful in a 4t.
You would change the rings and get the head sorted out, making sure all the valves are with spec etc.. |
Fair enough, I was getting carried away with myself and assuming the bore would be fucked in the cylinder the valve dropped in... In my experience the vavle hitting the piston totals everything in that cylinder. I would say what you described would be a top end overhaul or service not a 'rebuild' but agree to differ on that.
| chris-red wrote: | Doing a topend rebuild on a 2t will often just consist of replacing the piston rings |
That on the other hand really is stretching 'rebuild' . In my view top end rebuild would involve, pot, piston, gudgeon pin and gaskets.
Changing the rings, is just that. ____________________ "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." Hunter S Thompson
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| swampy wrote: | | chris-red wrote: | No you wouldn't.
You wouldn't even change the pistons unless they where damaged (likely in the cylinder with the dropped valve) or worn, doubtful in a 4t.
You would change the rings and get the head sorted out, making sure all the valves are with spec etc.. |
Fair enough, I was getting carried away with myself and assuming the bore would be fucked in the cylinder the valve dropped in... In my experience the vavle hitting the piston totals everything in that cylinder. I would say what you described would be a top end overhaul or service not a 'rebuild' but agree to differ on that.
| chris-red wrote: | Doing a topend rebuild on a 2t will often just consist of replacing the piston rings |
That on the other hand really is stretching 'rebuild' . In my view top end rebuild would involve, pot, piston, gudgeon pin and gaskets.
Changing the rings, is just that. |
Gaskets are a given, but why should a top end rebuild included replacing the barrel. They aren't generally supposed to be consumables
I think in a top end rebuild you take it apart and replace what needs replacing. if the piston is within spec, don't replace it. ____________________ Well, you know what they say. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
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I imagine you could squeeze a 'Busa engine in there, probably a turbo too...
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