MK2 fairing on MK3 GPZ500?

[blurredman]

hi there!

I am currently considering a late gpz500 near me. however the front fairing esspecially is quite considerably cracked. Since I don't even like the MK3 front fairing and light, I thought that this is a great oportunity to put an old version on.

But here's my dilema. I am not sure if they would fit. I have looked at pictures and the line and tank look almost identicle in regards to fixtures and I suspect it would be since it's the same bike after all with minor upgrades. Would they fit?

I was also wondering, since MCE seems to come out cheapest (by a few hundred quid in most cases), and I am in my restriction period. Does MCE require the stupid certificate ?


Thanks,

Blurredman
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CBT: 12/06/10, Theory: 22/09/10, Module 1: 09/11/10, Module 2: 19/01/11
Past: 1991 Honda CG125BR-J, 1992 (1980) Honda XL125S, 1996 Kawasaki GPZ500S, 1979 MZ TS150.
Current: 1973 MZ ES250/2 - 18k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 10k, 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (295cc) - 40k, 1989 MZ ETZ251 - 51k.

[Glenben92]

As far as I'm aware, there aren't 3 variations on the GPZ there are only two; Gen1 (up to and including 1993) and Gen2 (94 onwards). Have a look around www.ex-500.com for some more info on the matter.

NO insurance company requires a certificate of restriction. They're not a legal requirement and the insurance companies see them as useless and meaningless. Under NO circumstances should any insurance company demand to see a certificate. They can however request to inspect the bike or arrange dyno testing. But AFAIK it'd be their job to prove it's not restricted rather than yours to prove it is.
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57 Huoniao HN125-8 - , 97 Kawasaki GPZ500S -
99 Yamaha FZS 600 -
Mod 2 Passed - 01/10/2010

[Kickstart]

Hi

Not unusual for insurance companies to demand a certificate (although most will accept other proof). Despite the certicates being no more than a receipt.

All the best

Keith
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[blurredman]

Okay, I'll explain the situation better.

This is the bike I am thinking of buying:

https://www.sbfiberdesign.com/jpeg/kawasaki_gpz500s_95.jpg

The front fairing, I want to replace with the fairing from one of these:
https://motorbike-search-engine.co.uk/classic-bikes-2/GPZ500S.jpg

It looks like a simple swap, but that's what i'm trying finding out.
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CBT: 12/06/10, Theory: 22/09/10, Module 1: 09/11/10, Module 2: 19/01/11
Past: 1991 Honda CG125BR-J, 1992 (1980) Honda XL125S, 1996 Kawasaki GPZ500S, 1979 MZ TS150.
Current: 1973 MZ ES250/2 - 18k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 10k, 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (295cc) - 40k, 1989 MZ ETZ251 - 51k.

[Glenben92]

[Kickstart]

Hi

They can refuse to insure you for whatever reason they want as long as it isn't illegal discrimination.

All the best

Keith
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[Glenben92]

Bastards! I heard somewhere that you can technically pretty much scribble "<33BHP" on a piece of paper and send them that. Due to there being no legal standard for a restriction cert so there's nothing to compare it with, from a legal POV.

P.S, I've posted the question on the ex forums to save you having to sign up, i'll post their reply ASAP
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57 Huoniao HN125-8 - , 97 Kawasaki GPZ500S -
99 Yamaha FZS 600 -
Mod 2 Passed - 01/10/2010

[Kickstart]

Hi

You can as a piece of paper with a crayoned scrawl of "Itz 33beehatchpeee onest blud" has as much legal backing as the so called certificates. The police might be more likely to believe the certificate but if they wanted to then they could just get it dynoed.

However insurance can do what they want and can chose to refuse to insure you if they want. Once they have insured you and issued the documents they are VERY limited on what they can refuse to pay out for, at least for 3rd parties (ie the cover you legally need).

All the best

Keith
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[blurredman]

Certificate was just a sub question. The main one was about the fairings..
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CBT: 12/06/10, Theory: 22/09/10, Module 1: 09/11/10, Module 2: 19/01/11
Past: 1991 Honda CG125BR-J, 1992 (1980) Honda XL125S, 1996 Kawasaki GPZ500S, 1979 MZ TS150.
Current: 1973 MZ ES250/2 - 18k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 10k, 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (295cc) - 40k, 1989 MZ ETZ251 - 51k.

[jimbothe]

[blurredman]

Talking to a few people. In theory it shouldn't be too much hassle.

As I see it, the only problem are the differet clocks.
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CBT: 12/06/10, Theory: 22/09/10, Module 1: 09/11/10, Module 2: 19/01/11
Past: 1991 Honda CG125BR-J, 1992 (1980) Honda XL125S, 1996 Kawasaki GPZ500S, 1979 MZ TS150.
Current: 1973 MZ ES250/2 - 18k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 10k, 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (295cc) - 40k, 1989 MZ ETZ251 - 51k.

[Glenben92]

https://www.ex-500.com/index.php/topic,30723.0/topicseen.html
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57 Huoniao HN125-8 - , 97 Kawasaki GPZ500S -
99 Yamaha FZS 600 -
Mod 2 Passed - 01/10/2010

[blurredman]

I don't have an account there.

Don't suppose it matters anymore anyway. The bike i was looking at went over what i think it is worth. Just looked like a scam 6 bids by the same person in a row? WTF eh!

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120703524341&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
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CBT: 12/06/10, Theory: 22/09/10, Module 1: 09/11/10, Module 2: 19/01/11
Past: 1991 Honda CG125BR-J, 1992 (1980) Honda XL125S, 1996 Kawasaki GPZ500S, 1979 MZ TS150.
Current: 1973 MZ ES250/2 - 18k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 10k, 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (295cc) - 40k, 1989 MZ ETZ251 - 51k.

[Glenben92]

You should still be able to read the thread though :S can't you? not that it matters now
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57 Huoniao HN125-8 - , 97 Kawasaki GPZ500S -
99 Yamaha FZS 600 -
Mod 2 Passed - 01/10/2010

[Rogerborg]

[blurredman]

[stinkwheel]

I did the same job the other way round (I put a D-model fairing on a B-model bike).

You need to swap over the front subframe and possibly clocks with it (not as big a job as it seems). If you swap clocks you need to wiggle all the wiring for the clocks out of their terminal blocks and rearrange them into the right order (so you'd need both wiring diagrams in front of you.).

The rev counter will read double what it should if you put old model clocks on a new model bike.

It might be possible to retain the original clocks with a small amount of bracketry tweaking which would simplify the job immensely. Not sure on that point but you definately need the front subframe to switch fairings.
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[Glenben92]