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PostPosted: 10:30 - 04 Apr 2011    Post subject: Benelli Tornado Reply with quote

Now I don't know much about these bikes except I think they look the dogs bollox, but they obviously don't sell well as they are going for nothing brand new on ebay.

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Benelli-TORNADO-900-NEW-UN-REGISTERED-BARGAIN-/300443907405?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item45f3da354d

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Benelli-Tornado-TRE-898cc-Not-RS-LE-/330521656584?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item4cf4a03d08

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BENELLI-TORNADO-900-TRE-SPECIAL-OFFER-BRAND-NEW-/180494393014?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item2a064ddeb6

Are they that bad Shocked
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PostPosted: 10:34 - 04 Apr 2011    Post subject: Re: Benelli Tornado Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Now I don't know much about these bikes except I think they look the dogs bollox blah blah


are you on drugs? they are fucking hideous! they have fans in the exhaust pipes. how can you take a bike like that seriously? what else does it do? squirt bubbles out the brake calipers?

Stay away from them
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 04 Apr 2011    Post subject: Re: Benelli Tornado Reply with quote

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are you on drugs? they are fucking hideous! they have fans in the exhaust pipes.


No they don't. They're cooling fans, and aren't in the exhaust.

Just an underrated bike IMO. Wasn't massively fast in it's day. Was campaigned in WSB for a bit by Ant West IIRC. Can't really tell you much about reliability if I'm honest, but I would expect it to be typical Italian.
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 04 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Couple of people on here have one. And I have been tempted to try and get one a few times.

I think they are pretty ugly but they have grown on me.

Early ones had loads of problems and were silly money. There is a Benelli forum where you will find loads of details. Biggest problem is the clutch from memory, but the clocks also reset themselves easily. If you can get one that has been sorted it should be OK, or one new enough to be sorted under warranty. However from a few tales it does seem that they have been rather dubious about fixing ones with these recognised problems outside of warranty.

All the best

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PostPosted: 10:43 - 04 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do the fans serve some sort of purpose or are they just there to make a whooshing sound effect at high speed?

Bit daft but looks like a nice bike, not sure I've heard of Benelli before however, and when you consider you could have a nearly new Jap bike for that money.
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PostPosted: 10:51 - 04 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim Mc wrote:
Do the fans serve some sort of purpose or are they just there to make a whooshing sound effect at high speed?


The radiator is under the seat and the fans are to provide air flow through that when things get hot. Radiator is there to get it out of the way of the front of the engine (where is makes the bike wider than needs be)

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Bit daft but looks like a nice bike, not sure I've heard of Benelli before however, and when you consider you could have a nearly new Jap bike for that money.


Why go for a 2nd hand 2nd choice machine if you can have your first choice new for the less money Wink . Benelli are an old make but got closed down around 1990 (having been owned by De Thomaso, along with Maserati and Moto Guzzi for a few decades), and among other things produced the first 6 cylinder production road bike (I think), beating Honda CBX1000 by a few years. Rights to the name were bought by the same family who own Ariston who launched a load of scooters in the late 1990s and then brought out the Tornado before the losses got too much. Now owned by a Chinese company.

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PostPosted: 10:54 - 04 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Benelli Sei Wub

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PostPosted: 11:41 - 04 Apr 2011    Post subject: Re: Benelli Tornado Reply with quote

fuKKer wrote:
Polarbear wrote:
Now I don't know much about these bikes except I think they look the dogs bollox blah blah


are you on drugs? they are fucking hideous! they have fans in the exhaust pipes. how can you take a bike like that seriously? what else does it do? squirt bubbles out the brake calipers?

Stay away from them


Actually, I think you should stay away from bikes period......
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 04 Apr 2011    Post subject: Re: Benelli Tornado Reply with quote

The fans rotate the same way. Instant transfer from 'win' to 'fail' Wink.
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 04 Apr 2011    Post subject: Re: Benelli Tornado Reply with quote

G wrote:
The fans rotate the same way. Instant transfer from 'win' to 'fail' Wink.


Yep, they really should contra rotate.

All the best

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PostPosted: 12:03 - 04 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, a real reply, not "whatyermatesearddowndapub"


Fantastic bike.
£12k when new, 2000 bike built in 2002 (show me anything Jap from this era that comes even close). Now £6k OTR, but its still a 2002 bike effectivly.
130bhp, about 115bhp @ rear wheel.
Fuel economy is ruddy terrible, low 30's really. But its worth it.
Early models suffered some problems, but unlike some Jap manufactures, they didn't have the budget to hide their defects. Most should be repaired by now, if not, it should still be covered.

Came out for the 2002 WSB, and was miles ahead of the Petronis bikes. Its just the WSB moved to 1000cc, and it was already screwed before it entered. Only done a few races, but performed ok on track for its spec and power output.

Early models had core plug issues (worse material), Z25 driveshaft gear needs upgrading (VITAL, or engine bang job). Early models had dodgy dashes as well, reset your trip mileage, dodgy temp gauge etc. Basically though, you dont go into buying one of these bikes without looking into it first.

www.benelliforum.com

On there is a load of users that have stripped the bikes to bits, and found every thing about them. Mileage, well we've got an Aussie member who'd done over 50,000 miles on his, and still goign strong.

Engine, a peach. Sure its not enough to keep with a modern 1000cc, but it'll sit on the ass of a modern 600cc SS (loose out very top end, its about 160), but due to its triple nature, its got a huge torque spread in the middle of the rev range which makes it fantastic for road riding. The noise, good lord the noise, the inducation note is to die for it really is.

Its quite heavy, I think its about 190kg. But it feels very light on the road.

Due to the weight distribution, it tips into bends superbly. It doesn't like slow speed bends IMO, but it loves high speed bends. Its not got the best setup ever, and the front ends a little light really, but if your after latest lap times, braggin rights down the pub, this isn't the bike for you.

If you live on teh passion of bikes, how it makes you feel, how it rides on the road, then your onto a winner. You either love it, and get obsessed, or you hate it, and slag it off (see above). Most of these have never tried on though.

Sure its not the best handling, fastest bike ever, far from it, but i've ridden lots of bikes over many years, and not many make me smile and giggle like a schoolgirl every time I wind it up.

Looks, personnal taste really. If you want another Jap IL4 that looks like every other Jap bike, go for one of those. If you like class, and unique styling, again a great bike. Silly things, foothangers, fairing gaps, vents etc, all Triangulated.

I've done 10k on mine now. I done a 2500 mile road trip to southern france last year, fron Snow covered mountains up the Val-Disaire, to stuck in Nice town centre, in traffic, in 35+ degrees. She never missed a beat (I admit, I was worried before we left, but it turned out to be one of the most reliable bikes on the trip). other members on the forum also will agree. You get some bad eggs for sure, some people have had nightmares with theirs, but i've not. Everythings been changed and uprated (I got a 2003 bike), and bad a few paddys, she been as good as gold.

For £6k on the road, its a fantastic buy. I'd take one still over any new 600cc SS bike, just for its torque on the road really. Makes it a very enjoyable ride.

For comparision on speed, its faster than a K4 GSXR600, slower than an 08 R6, but slightly faster than a KTM Superduke 990 inc acceleration, but a chunk slower than a 09 Tuono.

But go out on it, any day, and it'll grab ALL the stares. Everyone looks at it, everyone likes to ask and talk about it. And I still have great fun telling everyone how it goes in water and the fans are really propellors. And yes, that line works on a lot of people too.... "reeeeaaaalllly????"

They have a 900cc Tornado
A 900cc RS tonado (bigger forks, more power, radial brakes etc)
A 900cc LE (150 made, £12k+ still). All carbon and magnesium.
1130cc Tornado
900 TNT
1130 TNT
And a million "special editions" of the TNT, which is getting quite tedious now.

Feel free to ask anything. You need to go in with eyes open, but its very much worth it in the rewards it brings. I've ridden much faster bikes, but they have no feeling, no passion, no soul, no character. And thats something this bike oooozes in every way.

I've got a few pics in the bike pictures forum (Mine and my dads bikes).
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 04 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daimo wrote:
not "whatyermatesearddowndapub"

Even worse, a reply by an owner Wink.

To be fair, a not too unbalanced reply, but still worth considering what other litre bikes you can get for £6k.
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 04 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Daimo wrote:
not "whatyermatesearddowndapub"

Even worse, a reply by an owner Wink.

To be fair, a not too unbalanced reply, but still worth considering what other litre bikes you can get for £6k.


Brand new??? Show me anything that comes close.
2nd hand, circ around £3k-£4k.

Owners are generally biased, thats why we bought the bike we're biased over...

But I owned a 2.0, and 2.0 turbo corsa, so I know not to sugar coat something if it really isn't as good as others make out.

It has flaws dont get me wrong, but for the price, the age, and the "wow" factor as it were, not much comes close IMO.

But I like my bikes with a bit more class and thought into it. I'll never be a superbike rider, so a .000012 increase in time around a track with a newer model doesn't do anything. Its how it makes me feel when im riding it, and if its good enough, it'll cover the bikes flaws.

I think im generally un-biased. I give a fair shout of whats good and bad. Can't stand those that make something out to be excellent as they like it, but in fact its just a turd still. Laughing

I.E my corsas, I knew what they were sh1t at (most things), but I wasn't ignorent to it Wink
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 04 Apr 2011    Post subject: Re: Benelli Tornado Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
they are going for nothing brand new on ebay.




Kickstart wrote:
the clocks also reset themselves easily.


Hmmmmmm

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PostPosted: 13:26 - 04 Apr 2011    Post subject: Re: Benelli Tornado Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:

Kickstart wrote:
the clocks also reset themselves easily.


Hmmmmmm

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NOT mileage, just the trip computer. Mileage remains. Laughing


fukker, why? Ridden one yourself? Why are they a "sh11ter" as you so politely put it?

You've come on, thrown a random its sht comment, purely to look like the internet cool homie type dude. Nothing factual, nothing relevent other than a pointless opinoin. Nice input. I very much doubt you've even sat on one, let alone ride it.
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 04 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daimo, have the new ones had all those problems cured or are they still prevalent?
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 04 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Daimo, have the new ones had all those problems cured or are they still prevalent?


When I was hunting round for info on them and thinking about one it seemed the new (larger engined) ones were fine. The 900s may or may not have been sorted and needed to be checked. But buying a 2nd hand one could be a bit dodgy as if not sorted within the warranty it seemed just about impossible to get it done without footing the large bill yourself.

fuKKer wrote:

Is it in the BSB? WSB? Superstock racing series? no? why not?


Because the rules have changed and are now biased against them (and for the 4s and twins) but they were in WSB.

At least they tried something different rather than just churning out identikit liquid cooled 4 cylinder bikes.

All the best

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PostPosted: 14:00 - 04 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Daimo, have the new ones had all those problems cured or are they still prevalent?


New ones should all be done and modified. If you buy from one of the big importers, they are quite fanatical about doing them, otherwise it creates them work later on Laughing Early ones i'd be more cautious over. Or, when viewing, demand to see all the history of the bike. No history, then walk straight away, its a must.

Not even goign to warrant that other little keyboard warrior a reply. His questions have already been answered. I can't help it if he's blind and un-educated. Smile
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 04 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Polarbear wrote:
Daimo, have the new ones had all those problems cured or are they still prevalent?


When I was hunting round for info on them and thinking about one it seemed the new (larger engined) ones were fine. The 900s may or may not have been sorted and needed to be checked. But buying a 2nd hand one could be a bit dodgy as if not sorted within the warranty it seemed just about impossible to get it done without footing the large bill yourself.

All the best

Keith


Indeed Keith Smile The 1130's suffer their own problems, mainly electrical I think... Well it IS Italian Laughing Im not to up on my 1130cc engines, I know its a compelte re-design, so suffers none of the engine faults the 900cc engines did. Im sure the most recent ones are all fine now though (again, think it was the early models).

Oh, clutch plates on early models were also prone to easy wear. Im about to have a look at mine as its starting to slip at top revs. Unsure if its an adjustment or a new set of plates yet.

If the clutch goes though, I think its a £1k+ job. Like the Z25 gear, its something to do before it goes itself (i.e I changed mine for my Euro trips. It hadn't broke, and I didn't want it breaking on me Laughing ).

But as Keith said, replacing parts isn't so bad. Replacing parts after they have broke is just utterly rediculas and will land you in a lifetime of debt Smile

Get a good 2nd hand one though (and there are owners who part with them), from an forum member, and you should be laughing.

We've got a few guys with Desmodecis, RSV4s, Bimotas etc, who all want to keep their Nellys, as they offer something not many other bikes do.


Did I mention the noise Laughing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwJYqAmybLg

Some flybys after 1min 15sec odd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8_qIOzJacU

And a quick pic showing how the airflow system works.

https://images12.fotki.com/v532/photos/4/48802/3559378/AirDucts-vi.jpg
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 04 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daimo wrote:
Not even goign to warrant that other little keyboard warrior a reply.


yea whatever, I have not threatened nor have i been calling you names so how i'm being a keyboard warrior is beyond me.
The only person with his back up is you because you can't take my opinion.
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 04 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

fuKKer wrote:
Daimo wrote:
Not even goign to warrant that other little keyboard warrior a reply.


yea whatever, I have not threatened nor have i been calling you names so how i'm being a keyboard warrior is beyond me.
The only person with his back up is you because you can't take my opinion.


The problem is you have nothing to back your opinion up with, you've never riden one.
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 04 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude, im fine with opinions, im fine with people disliking the bike, or any bike, if they have decent reason to. If we all had the same opinion, life would be boring.

Difference between you and me (an internet warrior isn't someone who wants a fight), is im happy to chat and talk, your happy to call soemthing sh1t with no experience or knowledge.

You have your opinion, I asked why, and your response was quite frankly, terrible. You banged on about if whys and whats, without reading anything written (where half your answers were already).

Rather than slating something, why not learn about it. You might find you learn something new and exciting. Do you see many Desmo's on the road? What about the NR750, or maybe a Norton? Are they all shit because you dont ever see them???

As i've already said, styling is a personnal choice.
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 04 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the looks of it and would love to ride one, bored of usual il4 stuff now.
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