Burnouts

[mrchips]

How exactly do you do a burnout? That's all.

[Ste]

Apply front brake. Lean towards the front of the bike, and in first gear do the same as you do to pull off apart from you're doing it with the front brake on so the back wheel will just spin. You can once you're ready to, start doing things like rolling ones (start by just letting the front brake off), donuts, changing gear, and other stuff.

[Sparks!]

Easy


Front brake, make sure the bike isn't really going to go anywhere!! then put some weight forwards, give it plenty of revs whilst gently letting the clutch out and wait for the wheel to start spinning!
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[Trunecka]

I stand astride my bike,
both feet on the floor,
ideally backside off seat,
front brake on very firmly,
clutch in,
into 1st,
rev to your powerband if 2t or to plenty of revs if 4t,
feed to the biting point where the engine tries to bog down,
lift the revs back up then dump the clutch.

Works on my 20bhp 2stroke.
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[hellkat]

I so want to learn to do one.

But I haven't plucked up the courage Yet Daren't EVEN attempt one on the Super Tenere, although I'm tempted to try it out on the XJ cos its a bit lower and the forks would go down easier.

I'm not interested in wheelies or stoppies, but *burnouts* and donuts, hoo baby!

Love 'em!


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[Nath]

Stupid question:
Do burnouts ruin your tyres?

Specifically, can you do a few quickish burnouts, without taking too much tread off?





*envisages creating lots of smoke outside college, leaving the tracksuit brigade open mouthed in awe*

[Ste]

Yes, that smoke is tyres going up in smoke so yes they do weat your tyres out. The quicker they are the less smoke there is (and less bits of flying rubber) so the less tread they take off.

[G]

When you first do one you will need quite a lot of clutch slip.
Initially you will probably also have to rev the bike quite a bit to get used to where you can start them.

Basically you need more revs if it's starting to stall rather than spin and to let the clutch out more if it's not starting to turn/stall.

Hellkat:
Come along to one of our reading industrial estate outings and I'm sure we can get you started in stunting .

[Rory]

I could be wrong, but I'd imagine that it's not just the rubber - you'll heat the tire up quite a bit doing burnouts, which will accelerate the tire's state of cure, shortening tire life in the process. Someone who knows better, please correct me.
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[Ste]

Tyres are made of rubber, well unless you go down to the tyre carcass which is metal weaved wire and cord stuff.

[Rory]

You misunderstand me - I meant that it's not just a question of how much rubber it takes off, as to whether you'll knacker your tyres doing burnouts.
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[Sparks!]

I recently learnt how to do donuts whilst standing off the bike, some think it's stupid, I think it's "entertaining" though..

Done a really shite one yesterday which I have a video off and it's crap, but took some advice from smoto bob and done a v nice one at thorney today full circle nice mark on the floor in a circle and a fair bit of smoke

Basicaly..

Put bike in 1st, sidestand up etc obviously, turn the bars away from you whilst upright get the wheel spining then lean the bike towards you a bit and push the back around with your thigh...

Keep the wheel spinning very fast though otherwise you will do what I did yesterday and have it stop half way around which looks shit..
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[Ste]

You only need to keep the wheel spinning enough for it to keep spinning, there is lots of room after that point where it is just making more smoke so wearing your tyre down more.

[stinkwheel]

Also worth noting that it covers the arse end of your bike in lumps of molten rubber and can clag up your rear brake caliper.
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[G]

I doubt it's too significant on road tyres. Presuming you're going to let them cool down again, some moderate burnouts are probably equivelent to going for a fastish ride as far as tempreture goes, so not too significant for a road tyre.

A long fast burnout can get pretty hot, but you're also destroying quite a bit of your tyre, so probably not bothered by it anyway.

If you were doing it on say a brand new supercorsa, then you've got too much money for a start. It's definitely going to 'use up' one of the tyre's heat cycles as such.

[hustler]

Not to mention you can melt the road (not my burn out, just spent £190 on bloody new tyres)
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[mrchips]

Before I made this thread I tried one with the front brake etc but I think my fault was that I was sitting on the bike rather than leaning forward. Realistically would it do much damage for a few seconds on a smoothish surface?

[Ste]

Tip: Never do big burnouts if you've got a hugger. And avoid doing big burnouts (to the point of the tyre going pop) on BT020's as they don't really like it and took their dislike of it out on everything within reach of the metal wire from the tyre carcass.

[swaffs]

Be aware of who is behind you as well, they may get upset...
https://www.swaffs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/bcf/ACE-2004/images/ACE-streetfighter_day-2004-20.jpg

especially when the tyre finally blows!!

[Shaun]

No I doubt it.

I went a bike meet sunday night and saw some guy work his way up to doing a 5th gear burnout, lots of smoke was involved and a piece of rubber hit me even though I was pretty far away, he then did some rolling burnouts around the car park and had a pretty square tyre after.

[Wave2k]

a piece of rubber hit me in the face from the crazy R1 guy doing a rolling burnout
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[Ste]

That's to be expected if you stand behind a bike doing a burnout.

[fazed]

I before E except after C

/me points @ wave

[Trunecka]

Looking at that Yamaha picture, how exactly do you remove the blobs of molten rubber from the bike when you've had your fun?

Or do you just leave them there hoping that if you crash the bike, they might act a bit like crash bobbins?
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[Ste]

Pour some petrol onto a cloth and that will shift it.