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PostPosted: 18:12 - 07 Apr 2011    Post subject: Dyno jet Bhp gain? Reply with quote

Booked the r6 (carb'd) in for dyno jetting on monday? should i expect an improvment?
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 07 Apr 2011    Post subject: Re: Dyno jet Bhp gain? Reply with quote

Blackrandomapple wrote:
Booked the r6 (carb'd) in for dyno jetting on monday? should i expect an improvment?


Seems like a strange thing to ask considering you've booked it in. What if I were to say "No, it will make absolutely no difference whatsoever!"?

1.) Have you got an aftermarket exhaust on the bike? Full system or end can?

2.) Does it run a stock air filter?

3.) Do you think you need more power?
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 07 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on what you ask for really. They could make it run more economical, push up peak bhp, or smooth out power delivery. The best compromised between all 3 is usually the standard setting that the bike comes with. So unless you've changed something like the exhaust system or air box the standard fueling will probably be fine.
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 07 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

No save your money.
99 R6 standard was 92bhp, with a k&n air filter, dynojet stage 1 kit, micron headers and art race can I gained 7bhp.
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 07 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve-D wrote:
99 R6 standard was 92bhp


Research tells me a 1999 R6 puts out 120? A standard 1998 CBR600F put out 105 so surely must be more than that.


Unless you mean now, a few years later, having lost a few ponies. In which case I shall crawl back under my rock.
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 07 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benson_JV wrote:
Research tells me a 1999 R6 puts out 120? A standard 1998 CBR600F put out 105 so surely must be more than that.


Do you mean a real 120rwhp or 120hp claimed at the crank?

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PostPosted: 19:22 - 07 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rear wheel bhp.
92 dyno'd standard 99 dyno'd afterwards on a 17k engine.
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 07 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Benson_JV wrote:
Research tells me a 1999 R6 puts out 120? A standard 1998 CBR600F put out 105 so surely must be more than that.


Do you mean a real 120rwhp or 120hp claimed at the crank?

All the best

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Claimed at crank in fairness.
But surely it can't loose 28 ponies going from crank to rear wheel?!
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 07 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve-D wrote:
Rear wheel bhp.
92 dyno'd standard 99 dyno'd afterwards on a 17k engine.


Benson_JV wrote:
But surely it can't loose 28 ponies going from crank to rear wheel?!


I guess they can.
Well. I'm going to crawl back under my rock then.

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PostPosted: 19:28 - 07 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, worst £500 I've ever spent.
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 07 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a racefit can on it, thats why i want the dyno
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 07 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trust me its not worth it.
Performance air filter, race can + headers and bigger jets ect. Couldn't notice any difference at all.
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 07 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don;t know about the jet kits but a power commander was one of the best buys I ever made for my TDM, It increased the smoothness no end the power delivery was much better afterwards. I very much doubt it added more than a couple of BHP. It's isn't all about top end power gain, Mid range torque is more important in the real world.
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 07 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a twin yea.
But on a IL4 with the engine characteristics of a 2 stroke, what's the point?
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 07 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think you can use a PC with a carbed bike can you?
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 07 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benson_JV wrote:
Claimed at crank in fairness.
But surely it can't loose 28 ponies going from crank to rear wheel?!


How many did it lose going from the marketing department to the shops? However looking round it seems like Yamaha only claimed 108hp for the early R6, with the 120 being some kind of claim including the ram air.

As to a dynojet kit, likely to improve things but maybe not peak power but that much. Depends on what else you have changed, but some changes (especially a full system) will move the power around quite a bit, and easily make it run rich in places in lean in others making the delivery even lumpier.

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PostPosted: 20:31 - 07 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah well, Its booked in on monday for the dyno, would be nice to get a smoother ride, not to smooth though as i like the way it rides,

I have an exhaust baffle in the race-fit,

Should i get it done with or with out it?
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 07 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you ride with or without? That is your answer Wink
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 07 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

both, depending on my mood lol, it gets anoying sometimes cos its loud
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 07 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meh, tried to save to some money, Let me know if you feel any difference because I sure couldn't.
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 07 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve-D wrote:
On a twin yea.
But on a IL4 with the engine characteristics of a 2 stroke, what's the point?


Smooth things out lower down and give it more punch in the mid range.
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 08 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thinking of getting my CBR dyno jet'd. As standard they have a huge flat spot (more like an abyss) around 5k.

I've fitted a Fuel slip-on, and it's far less restictive with the baffle out compared to the standard can. Worth doing?
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 13 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Picked bike up from the shop yestarday after he dyno jet.
I am pleased with the results,

More bottom end power.
A LOT less jerky at low speeds.
97bhp before
99.9 after
About 2% gain in torque
Bike was over-fueling and popping on deceleration but isnt now!

Well worth £110 (138 with new plugs)
This price included carb balancing.

Was dyno jetted at Dockside superbikes, Gloucester, Gloucestershire!
Recommended Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 13 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably just the carb balance was all that was needed.
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 13 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I balanced the carbs myself before it went in, i asked if he could do them again to get them super acurate,
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