cheap 125's?

[the95th]

Hey all,

I need a cheap but decent 125 or 100 in the Essex area? closer to CO12 the better!

As long as its got an Mot (or, close enough to pass without too much difficulty), runs well, and is under £500.

Thinking;

Honda, Cg, CB, CD or old Nsr.
Yamaha Sr, or Ybr.
Suzuki Gs

If anyone has an old 125 in storage etc... that would be brilliant!

ive trawled through gumtree and Ebay, and theres a few, just they wont accept cash on the spot, and waiting a week, to find out that in the last 15 seconds ive lost a bike its really bloody annoying.


Thanks a lot!
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2004 Rieju Rs2 Matrix 50cc, 1982 Honda CG125, 1986 Honda Cm125, 1982 Honda Cb125..... I kill a lot of 125's

[The View Askew]

Honda CB and CG, Yamaha SR are all great choices, I would suggest adding a Honda H100, not so common, but 2 stroke and great little bikes.

I still have my SR 125, bombproof and comfy little machine.

Wait for Kickstart and Stinkwheel to post, they are the oracles of the forum when it comes to practical little bike (and others of course) from what I've seen.
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[N cee thirty]

just looked on ebay at the cg's,some real bargains suprisingly

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Honda-cg125-/130506276507?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item1e62c7be9b

looks a shed,but probs another £100 and it would do you well
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[Teflon-Mike]

"Cheap" 125's far too often prove false economy.
Every one wants one, because they don't want to pay over the odds for a bike that has lack luster performance, that they don't really expect to keep very long.
Whatever the bike, by the time its fallen into the bargain basement price range, its normally WELL past its best, and had a string of usually inexperienced owners, learning on the thing, not just how to ride, crunching gears and snapping levers, but doing 'maintenance'.... frequently 'on the cheap' bodging stuff rather than spend money, becouse the bikes not worth much, and they dont intend hanging onto it, and wont see any of that 'investment' back out of it when they re sell.
FAR to many 125's are in serious maintenance over draft, and consequently prove unreliable, or at least dont ride as well as they should, or inspre confidence.
And you are fighting a dozen other people to get at these old heaps!
Curiousely, shifting up the market JUST a couple of hundred quid, can get you a MUCH better bike, that is in far better overall nick, and far less likely to cost you in terms of works needed than the 'extra' you spend upfront buying the thing, and more curiousely (or perhaps not), NOT having to compete with SO many nieve optimistic buyers clamoring to get their hands on an old junker, JUST because its in their price range!
Sub £500, loads of buyers, not so many sellers, there is an AWFUL lot of tat out there being punted out and fetching far more than its intrinsic functional worth.
Worst are the suggested 'Quick Fix' fixer upper project bikes. You are likely to find stuff 'just needs a little work' which usually means 'Needs LOADS more work than I'm prepared to do or pay for!', often with no Tax or Test, but suggestion tha they 'just need fork seals for test'..... I've bought one or two..... usually means they need a full ground up restoration! 'wont start. Needs Battery'.... means has terminal engine problem, but if you cant start it, because the battery's flat, how will you know how bad it is!"
Some bikes have T&T, but then you find that the 'small fault' is something like its been siezed up and needs a new engine, (bought a couple of them too!... means you cant GET a decent second hand engine for what the bikes worth!) or has been crashed and needs a new front end.
Easy fixes, USUALLY aren't, or they would have 'easily' been fixed!

So you are then chasing the less exotic bikes, and often the more troublesome 'runners', that people want to shift on, because they are chinese, and keep breaking down and wont do more than 55mph when they do work, or clapped out old CG's that are really on thier last legs, and probably wont pass their next test.

And competing with far to many people all wanting a 'runner' under their £500 or £600 budget, all too eager to part with thier cash.

There are bargains out there, but you have to make compromises, and the Japanese bikes are either going to be old, and well past best, or Chinese, and never were the best.

The old commuter two strokes like the H100, RSX100 or KH100/125 are often better value, but parts are harder to come by.

The CG, these days is SO over rated, that at £500 I' would forget it. You'd be lucky to get anything deserving an MOT.

And the sports two strokes, well, snapped up by johny go quickly, and just as quickly siezed or scrapped....

BUT, just £250 further up the market, you CAN squeek something like a four year old, YBR125, if you don't mind it being a bit raggy round the edges..... its about bottom book, but even a four year old ex school bike, is more likely to be in better shape than something twenty odd years old, with umpety previouse owners and gawd knows how much neglect and bodgery to take care off.

In the balence, likely NOT to cost you as much in the long run, by way of fixing stuff, likely to ride a lot more nicely, and generally work the way you'd hope.

And this is the daft bit, the 700-1000 bracket is a bit of a 'lull' zone in the market. Beware the £500 fixer upper, scrubbed up and punted out, looking pretty, but, more bikes, and fewer eager buyers, cash capped, so more chance of getting a 'better' bike for more 'sensible' money....

Other than offering that little nugget of wisdom, which I am sure you'll ignore or dismiss, probably with an 'I can see that, BUT... I only have £500'...... 'fraid I cant help.... its a really tough wicket, and you take your chances, slim as they are on it!

Only nugget I can suggest, trawl ALL teh forums, and ALL the bulletin boards and ALL the local small add sites, check the local free papers, and do the rounds of the post card boards and windows in the corner shops, super markets, comunity centres, etc, and use the grape vine, and 'put the word out' that you are looking for a bike, and HOPE to come up with something 'decent' that isn't being chased by the main stream looking no further than e-bay.
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[spetom]

Can only comment on the bikes I've owned.

I wouldn't recommend a new CG, any Chituma (stay away from them) or a Wuyang WY125-16C which was pretty much the same (including quality wise) as a new CG. Wuyang was ok to pass my test on (it's an A2) but wouldn't want to keep it.

Old 80s CG was good and possibly the best considering its age. I also had a Chinese that was only imported for a year or two in 2005 called an X-Stream BT125-5 was a very solid bike, but rare as hell and difficult for parts, only cost me £250 to buy it.

Genuinely regret selling both those bikes.

[FBSF]

Something like this Honda H100 would be a great bike, and should go within your range.

Good on fuel, and good for at least 60mph. With 18k on the clock it might need a rebore sometime in the next 10k, but on a little two-stroke such as this it isn't going to be a huge issue or expense.

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1990-HONDA-H100S-J-RED-/190518174991?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item2c5bc4a50f

Even something like this little YB100 might be worth a look - my dad used to have one, and it would pull 55 without issue, and 60 on a good day.

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/YAMAHA-YB100-1993-NICE-CONDITION-POSS-FS1E-DONOR-/330549737886?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item4cf64cb99e

Other than that, it's the small ads, gumtree etc...

[the95th]

Great ideas bike wise. But most would cost more to go pick up then they would to buy.

I was thinking of a 100cc bike, but there all 200 miles away.

However i found a Suzuki TS125 thats 3 miles down the road, thats just had an engine re build at 7k and mot till the end of the summer. Could do with a re spray but at £325 its nothing.

Thanks for the Ideas, and Teflon, i didnt need an essay on the effectiveness of a 500 quid CG. I know due to the bloated economy of ebay that a £200 heap sells for £500, thats why i was looking at places like freeads and gum tree.

At first when looking at my tiny budget for a decent commuter ( i know a TS isnt a commuter but itll do the job if looked after) i thought i may have to buy a chinease chocolate bike, but thankfully i didnt. However there were a load of em out there. Something like a 2010 Superbike cbr rip off that fell over for £250.... WTF.

Well anyway thanks for the help, and yes i know a cheap 125 is a bit like a false neutral. There not as cheap as they seem, and the ones that are usually make you go bang.
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[the95th]

Ok Can somone explain to me how this is right?

I went to go view 1984 SUZUKI TS125N RED/WHITE (270732567044). It had a Buy It Now of £325. So after viewing, i went home thought about it, and Hit the BIN button.

I phoned the guy and said, Can i pick it up, his answer was No.

Apparently he still had people comeing "a long" way to see it.

But i had Bought it on ebay before they viewed it.

Complete BS right?

Obviously he sold the bike to the other people. SO now ive lost out.

Anyway i can get him flagged on ebay for a timewaster?
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2004 Rieju Rs2 Matrix 50cc, 1982 Honda CG125, 1986 Honda Cm125, 1982 Honda Cb125..... I kill a lot of 125's

[Livefast123]

If he's sold the bike then you won't be getting it however I would put a despute into ebay as the minute you press the buy it now button you enter into an ebay contract. He may get a warning or struck off ebay. You need to be careful though as he could leave you poor feedback but I don't see any probs with getting ebay to remove that.

Ebay is full of T*ssers. I won a 1997 306 XSi that was in mint condition for £251 as the guy had a put it on a 1 day auction and no reserve. Funnily enough it developed a serious oil leak and the guy wouldn't sell it. It was too far away to go and dish out some justice
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[FBSF]

As a seller (and you a buyer) he can't leave you negative feedback - it isn't an option any more. If he leaves crappy comments under a positive icon, you can ask ebay to remove them, and they will (I've had this done).

If it's there with a BIN, and you click it, it's yours - as legally binding as any other auction.

You can end an auction early and cancel bids, but if it runs to the end, or BIN is pressed, the hammer has fallen and it's a legal deal.

Bet he would have tried to screw you if the boot were on the other foot, and you'd BIN'd it and then didn't want it...

[Livefast123]

What about this RXS 100 in Romford?

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MOTORCYCLE-/160570088931?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item2562b91de3

Worth a punt for £275
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[the95th]

150 mile round trip, just to go have a look lol. Bit too far tbh.

Im in the CO12 area, ( Colchester, Ipswich, Suffolk, Chelmsford at the most)

Nice bike though thanks.
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2004 Rieju Rs2 Matrix 50cc, 1982 Honda CG125, 1986 Honda Cm125, 1982 Honda Cb125..... I kill a lot of 125's