Claiming for damages outside of insurance?

[SpannerMonkey]

Right, Long story short, Lad assaulted me today who has long criminal record. Poured stella all over my headlamp bowl which contains all my wiring on the PC50. Kicked it over, started stomping on it which has fucked the suspension, front mudguard and back mudguard on a vintage bike.
TPO insurance
For those that ask why I didnt do anything, I had three witnesses watching so I knew I'd have a good case, also I know the lad very well.
And I'd like to keep my security licence. (I'd lose it if I assaulted him)

Question is, Can I claim for the damages through court as my insurance is TPO. He's locked up for the night for also stealing and assaulting a taxi driver.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Definitely. Even if you were insured there is no reason why you would have to go through insurance.

Small claims court would cover it. Although getting the money out of him afterwards might be the difficult bit.

All the best

Keith
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[SpannerMonkey]

[tvchimp]

[Kickstart]

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[SpannerMonkey]

I doubt it chris. He's commited SOOO many offences before... and a further 6 or 7 tonight...
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[Jayy]

https://www.mib.org.uk/Home/en/default.htm

Give them a ring mate.

*Edit* Actually, I don't think that is any use, for un-insured drivers?

[Livefast123]

I take it that you phoned the old bill and you had him arrested. With 3 witnesses I'd say that you have a strong case and he should be convicted at court.

When the old bill come round ask them to give you a MG19 compensation form so that the court can make a compensation order on conviction. If he has no income then he'll probably pay like £1 a week but if he doesn't pay then he could be locked up.
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[SpannerMonkey]

[Livefast123]

It's shit compensation mate, depends on what his income is. If it's OK then you'll have a decent amount but if he's living on the state then I wouldn't hold up too much hope. Unfortunatly in the UK victims have no human rights.


Even through the small claims court the result would be the same, if he's got no money then they make a order for a stupid amount every week.

I feel for you, that is a cute little bike.
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[SpannerMonkey]

[dragstaar]

unfortunately small claims court only gets you a "you have to pay him back" notice. It would work much better like this:

Judge: I hereby sentence you to pay the full sum of £3000 for the destruction of this mans property and general cuntness.

Defendant: Bus yer 'onor, I iz on da dole u see init, so i ent got no wongas. Soz man. *shrugs shoulders*

Judge: Right, thats no problem, lets head round your house now

*at defendants house*

Judge: Ah, so... lets see. Great TV, Nice PS3, ooh, is that your Iphone 4. Sweet laptop. We'll take these as payment, and call it a day. Oh, and heres a kick in the nutsack for being a world class douche.

that is how it should work.

But it doesn't, unfortunately.

[SpannerMonkey]

I wish... =/
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[MarJay]

Jeez Spannermonkey, in one post you say this lad has no income, and then you say how can you get the bike back on the road with £1 per week?

He hasn't got any money, so how are you going to get him to pay you compensation?

Unfortunately I think you'll have to chalk this one up to experience.
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[mr.kris]

dont know what to say about the bike but make sure he gets done over even if you have to do it yourself! cable tie his balls so tight he cant move then pop his eyeballs with whatever you have with you he is scum and thats all he needs doing with him!
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[mr.kris]

dont know what to say about the bike but make sure he gets done over even if you have to do it yourself! cable tie his balls so tight he cant move then pop his eyeballs with whatever you have with you he is scum and thats all he needs doing with him!
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[garyd]

Rough justice wins EVERY time ,n if you knew what a twunt he was why did you let him get so near the bike ,a citizens arrest from your occupation would have been acceptable ,forget the cash ,man up and do the right thing
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[iooi]

Gutted for you.

[Cheeseybeaner]

I would have thought the obvious thing for you to have done would have been to contact the police regarding criminal damage to your property, if you have witnesses I don't see why the cps wouldn't press charges.
I don't think an insurance policy covers acts of vandalism.

[SpannerMonkey]

The cops arrested him for the offence. and also, I can only make a citizens arrest for an intictable offense. If I attempt a citizens arrest otherwise, it will be an unlawful arrest. Thankyou.
Why do you lot seem to think I'm some kind of pussy who effectively cried and begged for him not to do it? All I did was kept my calm and didnt rise to him, it looks so much better for me in court. If he does come out, I will have my day. Dont worry about that one.

Also, at this point, Anyone who is properly trained in security will understand that when you're faced with 4 lads raring for a fight, your chances of actually getting anywhere are nil.
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[Pete.]

So the three witnesses were his mates, not yours?

Anyway - I'd like to be in the court when they read out the charge of 'stealing and assaulting a taxi driver'