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PostPosted: 23:47 - 14 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 23:56 - 14 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) Don't ride so close to parked cars

2) It happens

3) So does that.
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 15 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

0ddball wrote:
1) Don't ride so close to parked cars

2) It happens

3) So does that.





now re-read it its a 1 way street with cars fully parked on either side so when a car comes from the oposite direction theres just about a metre room to get through....
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PostPosted: 00:08 - 15 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ash Mash wrote:
0ddball wrote:
1) Don't ride so close to parked cars
2) It happens
3) So does that.


now re-read it its a 1 way street with cars fully parked on either side so when a car comes from the oposite direction theres just about a metre room to get through....


Yes.... but you didn't say you were going the RIGHT way down the one way street.......
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PostPosted: 00:17 - 15 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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now re-read it its a 1 way street with cars fully parked on either side so when a car comes from the oposite direction theres just about a metre room to get through....


Yes.... but you didn't say you were going the RIGHT way down the one way street.......[/quote]

well i was :') sorry for missing that detail evena builder who seen him open the door was shaking his head and told his friends about the open car door it was unreal he didnt even give a good apology it was just a wave and sorry i'd be in hospital still have gravel picked from my ands n legs if i hit that door ! Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 00:21 - 15 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a parked vectra poke it's nose out of a line of parked cars giving me the choice of going into it or the oncoming traffic at about 30mph, needless to say I binned it into the vectra and was thrown onto the floor from my bike, driver was very apologetic, but was uninsured, the forks cost me £75 to straighten.

Now I actually drive a vectra, these things happen as above, stop your crying, one day you will make an idiotic mistake and provoke some whining trout to make a thread about it. Life goes on.

Ps the term cager irritates me, there is nothing wrong with driving a car, I think a lot of people who use this term don't have a license to drive a car, or have never driven a fun car, or are just in denial about driving in general.
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PostPosted: 00:26 - 15 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ash Mash wrote:
still have gravel picked from my ands n legs if i hit that door ! Thumbs Down


I hope not, because this would imply you aren't wearing decent bike gloves and leg armour. Which added to the fact you're a learner doesn't sound sensible in the slightest.

That said, good job for not hitting the door Thumbs Up , gloves or no gloves, crashing is bad news whether its your fault or not!
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PostPosted: 00:33 - 15 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ash Mash wrote:
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now re-read it its a 1 way street with cars fully parked on either side so when a car comes from the oposite direction theres just about a metre room to get through....


Yes.... but you didn't say you were going the RIGHT way down the one way street.......


well i was :') sorry for missing that detail evena builder who seen him open the door was shaking his head and told his friends about the open car door it was unreal he didnt even give a good apology it was just a wave and sorry i'd be in hospital still have gravel picked from my ands n legs if i hit that door ! Thumbs Down[/quote]

OK, you are still in 'rant' mode.......
Calm down kid..... it was YOUR FAULT.
Your on a bike, ergo, its your fault, becouse you should EXPECT every bugga out there to be trying to kill you!
If you let stuff like this get on your wick, this early on.....
Well, you'll end up locked up... either in a cell with padding or one with bars, having gone do-lally or homicidal!
You need to learn to 'chill'.... these idiots are an occupational hazard, and they lurk round every corner.
- You need to lower your expectation levels of other drivers
- You need to up your own hazard awareness levels
- You need to increase your predictivity of idiocy
(Remember when they make something fool proof, they build a better fool!)
But MOST importantly
- You need to learn to laugh it off.....
Or it isn't them with the problem, its you... not having the 'temprement' to cope with what IS out there, no matter how wrong it may be, or how stupid, or how lethal....

See the funny side, two idiots, both blamed you, you LIVED.... jokes on them!
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PostPosted: 00:33 - 15 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

He is 17, and still very much learning. A CBt is very basic training compared to a test, so empathise a little.

We are a bit older, and experience many things like this. The best way to avoid is by riding safely, and that is to position yourself so people move out the way or slow down. Make them scared to hit you.
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PostPosted: 00:34 - 15 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ingah wrote:
Ash Mash wrote:
still have gravel picked from my ands n legs if i hit that door ! Thumbs Down


I hope not, because this would imply you aren't wearing decent bike gloves and leg armour. Which added to the fact you're a learner doesn't sound sensible in the slightest.

That said, good job for not hitting the door Thumbs Up , gloves or no gloves, crashing is bad news whether its your fault or not!


nah i wasnt wearing good leg armour well sum jogging bottoms with sum thick jeans on top....kind of a nightmare to take bike trousers to college along with helmet books and jacket and chain Rolling Eyes

and the gloves is a long story but my knox handroids will be here tomorow hope fully!
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PostPosted: 00:43 - 15 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ssshhhh, don't admit to being dangerous or having a lack of security, bike gear or anything negative!
If you get a bike stolen without the best security then people willmoan at you. If you crash wihout gear then people will moan at you. If you have a ped then you may as well leave now. If you moan of cars then you will get car drivers saying did you ride defensively? You're smaller and therefore harder to seeand could have prevented it. If you don't have a big bike then another 17 year old will say you could do, you aren't poor, I am 17 and have a 600, it's doable, you are lazy. Basically, don't even bother defending yourself or you'll get someone pointing out your spelling mistakes and lack of captial letters.
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PostPosted: 00:49 - 15 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

MinhDinh wrote:
Ssshhhh, don't admit to being dangerous or having a lack of security, bike gear or anything negative!
If you get a bike stolen without the best security then people willmoan at you. If you crash wihout gear then people will moan at you. If you have a ped then you may as well leave now. If you moan of cars then you will get car drivers saying did you ride defensively? You're smaller and therefore harder to seeand could have prevented it. If you don't have a big bike then another 17 year old will say you could do, you aren't poor, I am 17 and have a 600, it's doable, you are lazy. Basically, don't even bother defending yourself or you'll get someone pointing out your spelling mistakes and lack of captial letters.


Laughing nah i dont have a ped ...and im very poor but soon as i can im taking my test for a 'big bike' but i know im not ready yet Very Happy

thanks for sympothy anyway Laughing
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PostPosted: 01:05 - 15 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ash Mash wrote:


nah i wasnt wearing good leg armour well sum jogging bottoms with sum thick jeans on top....kind of a nightmare to take bike trousers to college along with helmet books and jacket and chain Rolling Eyes

and the gloves is a long story but my knox handroids will be here tomorow hope fully!

A nightmare eh?

Crash your bike without gloves or leg protection, and then you'll experience a real nightmare - the hospital, and potentially far more serious injury. Skin grafts. Nasty stuff. And no one will have much sympathy because if you're not even protecting yourself to the best of your ability then why should anyone feel sorry for you?
Your jeans will last about half a second in contact with the road. Last time i came off a 50cc scooter, at 30mph, i slid along the road for at least 5 seconds. I take it you don't have another 9 pairs underneath, so the rest of that sliding is skin and bone for you. It ripped my bike trousers. I slid along on my front, gloved hands dragging along the ground. I picked up the delivery bike and took it back to base, no injury to me. I suspect that same crash would've hospitalised you, with some pretty serious burns.

Not convinced? I'd invite anyone else reading this with pics of injuries from their own/others crashes, to post them up, show you. I think it might give you some second thoughts. 20mph crash knees that look more like raw chicken legs e.g. That sort of thing. I've seen them before on here, and i was convinced.

Get bike jeans if wearing proper bike trousers is against dress code. Hood is an excellent brand. Fully kevlared, and you don't need to carry anything extra. There is no excuse really. I have a faff getting around uni and getting to work with all my gear, but i manage, because i'm conscious that it's the only thing separating me and road. And on occassion, it really has been.

Gloves, you've got as of tomorow. Good for you, i hope you won't need them but i'd wager most people will.
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PostPosted: 01:05 - 15 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im not suprised you're very poor, those gloves cost £170
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PostPosted: 01:32 - 15 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ingah wrote:
Ash Mash wrote:


nah i wasnt wearing good leg armour well sum jogging bottoms with sum thick jeans on top....kind of a nightmare to take bike trousers to college along with helmet books and jacket and chain Rolling Eyes

and the gloves is a long story but my knox handroids will be here tomorow hope fully!

A nightmare eh?

Crash your bike without gloves or leg protection, and then you'll experience a real nightmare - the hospital, and potentially far more serious injury. Skin grafts. Nasty stuff. And no one will have much sympathy because if you're not even protecting yourself to the best of your ability then why should anyone feel sorry for you?
Your jeans will last about half a second in contact with the road. Last time i came off a 50cc scooter, at 30mph, i slid along the road for at least 5 seconds. I take it you don't have another 9 pairs underneath, so the rest of that sliding is skin and bone for you. It ripped my bike trousers. I slid along on my front, gloved hands dragging along the ground. I picked up the delivery bike and took it back to base, no injury to me. I suspect that same crash would've hospitalised you, with some pretty serious burns.

Not convinced? I'd invite anyone else reading this with pics of injuries from their own/others crashes, to post them up, show you. I think it might give you some second thoughts. 20mph crash knees that look more like raw chicken legs e.g. That sort of thing. I've seen them before on here, and i was convinced.

Get bike jeans if wearing proper bike trousers is against dress code. Hood is an excellent brand. Fully kevlared, and you don't need to carry anything extra. There is no excuse really. I have a faff getting around uni and getting to work with all my gear, but i manage, because i'm conscious that it's the only thing separating me and road. And on occassion, it really has been.

Gloves, you've got as of tomorow. Good for you, i hope you won't need them but i'd wager most people will.


Nothing wrong with other people choosing to wear less safety gear than you deem acceptable. If they know the risks and crash who actually cares?

Just because you deem riding motorcycles to be an acceptable risk, but riding without gear unacceptable doesn't mean others can't consider it to be acceptable.

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No pain even after scrubbing out and I still ride without bike trousers when making journeys that I deem to be an acceptable level of risk. Minimal scarring. Crashed without gloves too because I couldn't find them and was late for work. Again, I knew the risks and didn't/still don't care. Gravel in my hands and a bit of a chunk off my thumb and a couple of fingers. It all healed rapid and have a slight scar on one of the palms, fingers are perfect.

LOL at 'poor' people buying handroids.
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PostPosted: 01:43 - 15 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

is not that im poor but handroids cost me £130 ,,,compared to test and big bike i'd be looking at 3-5k to have the bike i want ect with insurance cost so whne you put it into perspective £130 isnt alot
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PostPosted: 02:43 - 15 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got a link for them at £130?
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PostPosted: 07:18 - 15 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy and read this book:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Motorcycle-Roadcraft-Police-Handbook-Motorcycling/dp/011341143X

As you'll learn, your own attitude has a huge part to play in terms of how much risk you'll have of having an accident. But remember a lot of the advice in there is a bit different to how you should ride for your test!

So buy and read this one too, as well as getting some decent training if you're planning to take your test:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Official-DSA-Guide-Learning-Ride/dp/0115530568/ref=pd_sim_b_1
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PostPosted: 08:33 - 15 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always expect utter stupidity and reckless idiocy from cagers. Never be surprised by anything they do. Try to anticipate it. Experience will teach you that nothing is beyond realms of possibility when it comes to cager dickishness.

Opening the rear door of piss takers is a good move. I like to give their bodywork a swift kick or destroy their wing mirrors if they really take the piss. I rarely have anyone get in my way these days, even on the flying flea (RXS).

It's not a legal requirement that you remove your crash helmet. The other day I refused to remove mine at a Total petrol station and still got served. The sign said you are politely requested to remove your crash helmet but I politely declined to remove mine. You soon get to know what petrol stations have this idiotic policy - avoid them, and make sure to publicise them as widely as possible so other riders can boycott them too.
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PostPosted: 08:52 - 15 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some cagers arent bad, mainly the biker rider ones Thumbs Up

You say you are fairly experienced for a 17 year old, yet have problems filtering Rolling Eyes
Ive been riding nearly 5 years, I wouldnt consider myself that well experienced... I can filter pretty quick and have now after 10 incidents with cars, worked out how to avoid most accidents (with training and avoidance lessons) but there is no way I would consider myself experienced... so a 17 year old saying that does make me laugh... although you sound like me when I was 17, 6 months on the road I was gods gift, turned out bad for me Thumbs Up

Personally, would have moved into the other lane, if its one way, and he was going the wrong way, he would have been in serious crap for hitting you Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:29 - 15 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

My grandad had a stand up argument in Dublin once with a fellow cage driver. The guy had pulled into a street that my grandad was 2 thirds of the way down, cars were parked on either side of the road leaving a single track to drive down. The guy was demanding grandad reverse his car the whole length of the street so he could drive down.

Of course grandad being as stubborn as an ox refused and insisted the man that had just entered the street should be the one to reverse. The exchange continued for a few minutes with neither party backing down until the block said that he was going to call the police and let them deal with it. Thats when grandad calmly looked at the guy and said "Go right ahead, but before you do, have a little look at what direction these cars are parked on both sides of the road and then have a walk down to the end and see what that big round sign says that you've driven past."

Bloke had driven the wrong way into a 1 way street. He shamefacedly backed off.

Numpties do tend to miss things like that and head the wrong way. I've had people reversing up a 1 way street. "well I'm facing the right way!" The idea is to be prepared for any eventuality.

The filtering part. Happens. Nothing you can do about it. Cagers take exception to us filtering and try and stop it at times.

As for the petrol stations. I grew up in Belfast and it was required for safety reasons so I'm used to it. But what I dont agree with is Madame Punjab can wear her letterbox suit and its allowed but we have to remove our lid. To save any hassle I try and use the "pay at pump" stations. Then I dont even have to get off the bike.
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 15 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

MinhDinh wrote:

If you get a bike stolen without the best security then people willmoan at you. .

I don't have any security it is cheaper to not have security on my insurance than have it, more fool the insurance company.


As for the rest of it, all everyday things really, although I have only been asked to remove my lid twice, and each time I refused, first time I just ignored her, and told her I can't hear her, I have ear plugs in and a helmet on, second time I filled up it was £9.98, woman again being stubborn refusing to let me pay for it till I removed lid, so I walked out to the cash machine, withdrew £10, went back in, stood in the queue, got up to her, she was going nuts about me not removing helmet and then walking out of the queue blocking her forecourt up, I put my £10 on the counter, took my 2p change from the little tray on the side and then popped it in the charity box walked out and took ages to get going, followed by a friendly wave.

She was fuming, bless her.
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PostPosted: 10:39 - 15 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The View Askew wrote:

Ps the term cager irritates me, there is nothing wrong with driving a car, I think a lot of people who use this term don't have a license to drive a car, or have never driven a fun car, or are just in denial about driving in general.


Hear, hear.
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