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M1ghtyDUck
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 18 Apr 2011    Post subject: When to give up on an old bike? And bike thieves in court Reply with quote

Hi guys,

When do you give up on an old bike?

I've got a '92 GSXR400 that I'm umming and ahhing over getting rid of. Bought it for £1000 a few years ago, with 10 previous owners. Small bits have been falling off but the engine is still "sweet as a nut" according to all the mechanics that have worked on it.

Recently, some pikeys tried to nick it by drilling out the ignition barrel. They would have got it too but there's a loose connection from the battery to the ignition that I hadn't got around to fixing yet, and it turned it back off for them.

Someone saw them tampering, rang the police who for the first time in my life actually did something (me and my girlfriend once got mugged in a town square; I chased the fuckers down with a bouncer and literally handed them to the cops and nought happened) and picked them up. They're in court today and if they plead not guilty I go as a witness to the trial, so I'll keep you posted on that.

Either way, now its just standing there and has been for a couple weeks, wondering if it's going to get repaired or not. I just checked and it still runs, but I've probably spent over £1200 on it over the years, and I wonder if it's worth taking it somewhere yet again or maybe I should just try and sell it as is to someone who'd break it?

It has a few niggles that I don't mind but are more things that make me think perhaps its time to stop flogging a dead horse and just sell to a breaker?

Overall:
- drilled out ignition barrel
- loose connection from battery to ignition
- broken left wing mirror
- broken tachometer light
- speedo not working (bought a replacement)
- no choke cable (I do it manally)
- a bit difficult to get into neutral (warped clutch?)

It's currently SORN but MOT valid till later this year, my insurance runs out next month. Overall I'm thinking to get back to full rideable I might as well just put the money towards a new bike.

Thoughts?
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 18 Apr 2011    Post subject: Re: When to give up on an old bike? And bike thieves in cour Reply with quote

M1ghtyDUck wrote:
Overall I'm thinking to get back to full rideable I might as well just put the money towards a new bike.

Thoughts?


Get it back to a rideable state, and then sell it and get a new bike.

Or,

Break it for parts.

I'd imagine you'd get more for breaking it, but would be more hassle and time consuming.
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 18 Apr 2011    Post subject: Re: When to give up on an old bike? And bike thieves in cour Reply with quote

tvchimp wrote:


Break it for parts.

I'd imagine you'd get more for breaking it, but would be more hassle and time consuming.


This.
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 18 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on how valuable the bike is to you, can you afford a new bike?

I got my GSX550 as a project which turned out to require 6 months of work and alot of cash to make roadworthy. Everyone said it was not worth it but 3 years later now I have a perfectly running mid 1980's bike which turns heads.

Most parts can be brought from breakers on ebay. With constant searching you can find some real gems. I recently found an original 4 into one exhaust for mine.

Not had any security issues yet but i'm known for setting various traps. Railway sleeper on the seat is a good one. After all it stops the cover blowing away.....

Good luck with the court case.
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 18 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

i broke a gk76a model and to be honist i would never bother again myself the parts took ages to sell as there not that common and the parts wernt worth a great deal
my advice would be to fix it to a usable condition and sell it on Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 18 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

track it?
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 18 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers guys. I don't really have time to break it myself, got final year exams coming up in a month, and after that I'm moving out so need to have the bike issue sorted by then.

Likewise, fixing it up I don't have the time myself. Me and my dad did that with an old NSR 125 I had but that was back home and had oodles of spare time.

So it's either sell as is on ebay or something, to someone who could fix it up or break it themselves for a summer project, or I'll take it to a garage to get fixed, then sell.

Is the extra value for a fully working bike likely to be worth doing the latter? Just as a general rule.

Thanks again
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 18 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you attached to the bike? If so, go to whatever lengths is necessary to get it up and running properly again. Some bikes are just bikes, and some are a labour of love. Like my ancient RXS, which I wouldn't swap or sell for anything.
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PostPosted: 18:06 - 18 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lolwut.


drilled out ignition barrel

lockset from ebay

- loose connection from battery to ignition

tighten the battery connections? find the damaged joint and resolder.

- broken left wing mirror

ebay special

- broken tachometer light

take the clocks apart, i bet its a 501 capless bulb

- speedo not working (bought a replacement)

cable or drive unit?
- no choke cable (I do it manally)

ebay special


- a bit difficult to get into neutral (warped clutch?)


check the chain tension and change the oil.


you could do all that in a day easily.



What he said Thumbs Up

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according to all the mechanics that have worked on it.


Buy a manual and fix it yourself Thumbs Up Don't pull the 'I don't have time' card as I manage two jobs, two kids, ride time, and mechanic time as well as pleasure time. It can be done mate Wink
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 18 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget to check the clutch adjustment either. That can cause problems getting neutral too.
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 18 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

CHR15 wrote:
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Likewise, fixing it up I don't have the time myself.


lolwut.


drilled out ignition barrel

lockset from ebay

- loose connection from battery to ignition

tighten the battery connections? find the damaged joint and resolder.

- broken left wing mirror

ebay special

- broken tachometer light

take the clocks apart, i bet its a 501 capless bulb

- speedo not working (bought a replacement)

cable or drive unit?
- no choke cable (I do it manally)

ebay special


- a bit difficult to get into neutral (warped clutch?)


check the chain tension and change the oil.


you could do all that in a day easily.



+1! THIS!

I've spent more time and money than I can imagine on my ER5, but I know that once I've fixed it I should be able to get a few quid for it. Problem after problem now means that hopefully, when they're sorted it should run for a few thousand trouble free miles.

But anyway back on topic, what he said! A weekend's worth of work at the most. If numpty here(me) can assemble a bike in half a day I'm sure you can fix that in a weekend!
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 18 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm thanks. I'm really not much of a mechanic, and I have no tools to speak of up here, but when you put it like that I might have a go after my exams.

I forgot to mention, the reserve switch is gone too. Ebay again I assume.
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 19 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

M1ghtyDUck wrote:
Hmm thanks. I'm really not much of a mechanic, and I have no tools to speak of up here


You need a screwdriver and an adjustable spanner. Try poundland.

Counter clockwise loosens. Clockwise tightens.
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 19 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

calyx wrote:
M1ghtyDUck wrote:
Hmm thanks. I'm really not much of a mechanic, and I have no tools to speak of up here


You need a screwdriver and an adjustable spanner. Try poundland.

Counter clockwise loosens. Clockwise tightens.


Adjustable spanner Tut Tut .


£3 delivered for a spanner set on Argos eBay.

I bought it, even though it says test listing it is still valid.

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350416094939&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

They aren't bad tbh, I bought a set to cut in half and use in a tool kit but they are actually ok considering they were £3.
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 19 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha, I guess I have to take the somewhat patronising replies in my stride huh?

I'm thinking I will do it up myself after all. One last question, looked last night and I need a new speedo drive (not just cable), and replacing that would require taking the front wheel off. Something a novice could manage?
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 19 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless you are a complete Numpty then yes it is easy to take the wheel off.

If I listed all the bits wrong on my bike this post would be HUGE.


Needless to say I ain't passing no MOT in the near future.
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 19 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

M1ghtyDUck wrote:
Haha, I guess I have to take the somewhat patronising replies in my stride huh?

Yep Thumbs Up

I'm thinking I will do it up myself after all. One last question, looked last night and I need a new speedo drive (not just cable), and replacing that would require taking the front wheel off. Something a novice could manage?


Yes, hardest part will be finding a way to get the front of the bike in the air. If you have a centre stand then half of the work is done, all you need to do is weigh down the back wheel and it'll lift the front (ratchet straps and a ground anchor were practically made with this in mind. Alternatively, a jack under the downpipes will lift the front up.

If no centre stand then you will need front and back paddock stands or some pikey ingenuity in order to get the front up. People have used many many different methods, axle stands, crates, car jacks, planks of wood etc etc etc so find one you feel is suitable if you don't have/want to buy stands.

Then it is unbolt the fork pinch bolts, undo the spindle nuts if there, slide out spindle and wheel comes out. Just remember exactly which order things came off the wheel in and you will be fine.

You might need a socket and breaker bar to undo the front spindle nuts, a semi decent socket set is always a nice thing to own though.
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