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 Posted: 09:09 - 17 May 2011 Post subject: Cheap eBay mods = absolute disaster |
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I'm posting this despite knowing that a lot of the replies will be of the "That's what you get for buying cheap tat" and "Serves you right for wanting tasteless chav bling" variety, the reason being that some people might find it interesting and at the very least it will get it off my chest.
About 6 weeks ago I went on eBay to buy some aftermarket bits and pieces for the Street Triple. Seeing as how the forks and a few other parts are already gold, I thought I'd stick with that colour.
First of all I bought a radiator cover:
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310277655198&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
It looked quite nice when it arrived so I fitted it. Less than one month later, this is what it looks like:
https://www.bikechatforums.com/files/img_5611__large_.jpg
As you can see, the supposed aluminium anodizing has almost completely faded. So right now I'm asking for my money back, but I don't hold out much hope.
I also ordered a set of gold levers. I made a thread about this earlier so I will just post a link to it:
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=219554&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
I complained to the seller and they said they knew of the problem and would send me some new levers that will not fade, but my expectations are not high.
I also ordered a set of crash posts and swingarm bobbins. I was told they were shipped over a month ago, but never arrived. The seller is not responding so I have had to open an eBay dispute to try to get my money back.
So far, so terrible. But the worst was yet to come. The brake lever I ordered turned out to be incorrectly machined. There is a hole that the brake pushrod seats into, but in the new lever it must not have been quite deep enough. This was where the combination of shoddy parts and my mechanical incompetency resulted in true disaster. Despite it being a very tight fit when I installed the lever, I decided to persevere anyway, because I'm a total bellend. This resulted in the front brakes being ever so slightly on, although I didn't realise it.
The next day I was riding to work, going about 60, when the bike started slowing down for no apparent reason. This lasted about a second, then suddenly I was no longer on the bike, I was sliding down the road.
I ground to a halt and managed to drag myself onto the verge. I knew my knee was hurt but it wasn't until I looked at it and saw bone that I realised how badly. The woman who'd been in the car behind came to help, and mentioned that she had seen smoke coming out of the bike just before I'd crashed. Presumably this was from the front brakes.
So as well as a pile of worthless eBay crap, I also have a severely scraped bike and the prospect of 2 months in a leg brace due to a broken kneecap. My helmet, boots and gloves are in the bin.
FUCKING SHIT BOLLOCKS
Here's a few more pictures:
https://www.bikechatforums.com/files/img_5595__large_.jpg
https://www.bikechatforums.com/files/img_5593__large_.jpg
https://www.bikechatforums.com/files/img_5592__large_.jpg
https://www.bikechatforums.com/files/img_5600__large_.jpg
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Quote: | So far, so terrible. But the worst was yet to come. The brake lever I ordered turned out to be incorrectly machined. There is a hole that the brake pushrod seats into, but in the new lever it must not have been quite deep enough. This was where the combination of shoddy parts and my mechanical incompetency resulted in true disaster. Despite it being a very tight fit when I installed the lever, I decided to persevere anyway, because I'm a total bellend. This resulted in the front brakes being ever so slightly on, although I didn't realise it.
The next day I was riding to work, going about 60, when the bike started slowing down for no apparent reason. This lasted about a second, then suddenly I was no longer on the bike, I was sliding down the road.
I ground to a halt and managed to drag myself onto the verge. I knew my knee was hurt but it wasn't until I looked at it and saw bone that I realised how badly. The woman who'd been in the car behind came to help, and mentioned that she had seen smoke coming out of the bike just before I'd crashed. Presumably this was from the front brakes. |
Damn, that looks nasty!
This is exactly what caused my off on the runway at 132mph.
When the bike is first ridden, the wheel spins freely and the brakes don't bind at all. As the brakes generate heat, a tiny amount of oil is supposed to flow back into the master cylinder through the return port (no bigger than a pinhole really) to stop pressure building up. This port is covered by the master cylinder piston in the very first bit of travel, so because the lever was tight-fitting it's held the piston over that port which has not allowed any pressure relief in the system.
Basically, they have sold you a poorly-machined part which has caused the crash. I'm not a great advocate of the compensation culture but in this case, I would say you have a great case and good justification for a claim.
BTW don't touch the bike or the braking system if you think ou want to claim - it's going to need to be inspected by an engineer/assessor. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good  |
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Aah, I see you bought the levers direct from Hong Kong. That puts the mockers on any idea of claiming  ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good  |
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Even if they were a UK outfit l would expect them to just say you fitted them incorrectly, l too have brough cheap pattern levers in the past which have turned out to not fit correctly which l,ve had to bin hopefully you will have some luck going after the seller. ____________________ Past:NRG50,AF1125(x2),NSR125RR,ZZR250,CX500,VFR400,KR1S,ZZR600(x2),CB400N,YZF1000(x2),KH125,Z200,FX400R,CBR954RR(x2)GPZ500S,GT550,VFR750F(x2),RD350N,XR650R,CBR600F,CB250,KDX250,YZF750R,CRM250,400EXC,KLR650,TTR600RE,DR350S,R100GSPD,RGV250,VMAX1200,DL650,KZ750 Present:G650XC,C12,CRF450X,1190ADV |
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Damn you are one unlucky sod.
Utterly shocking about the brake levers!
Was that the first time you had ridden with them? |
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Bloody Ebay, it's good for certain things but for safety related stuff I definatly wouldn't go there now Such a blatent waste of your kneecap and bike. I hope you repair both quickly.
They can sell good looking tat into the country knowing full well that it doesn't fit properly etc and get away with it . Arhhhhh. I would alert trading standards to see if they've had problems before and because Ebay is a UK site they may be able to take them off?
I hate to be the first to point it out but wouldn't all that money spent on tat have been better spent on some proper trousers  ____________________ Current ride - Yamaha MT-07 |
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The worst part is I have armoured trousers, I just couldn't be bothered wearing them that morning cos it was "only a 10 minute ride into work" ...  |
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This is part of the reason i bought my last pattern brake lever from a Honda dealership, as you know it's not likely to be dangerous tat. That and it was £6 or so i think.
I do hope you are able to chase compensation as it's about the only thing short of the feeble arm of justice that incentivises companies to play a straight game. Worth a few phone calls to some ambulance chasers imo, as you'd hope that by selling in UK, it'll make them able to be held to account by UK law.
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Unlucky mate. You just made my mind up, I'm going for Pazzo levers rather than Chinese copies.
Btw, your tax is due soon.  ____________________ TheShaggyDA: I've got 3 or 4 pairs that predate my wife, so at least 11.5 years old. |
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Gutted for you about the damage to the bike and knee. :'(
Not the same disaster story (result) as you, but I too have had 'cheap' eBay leavers that needed modification to get to fit.
I am not sure how they get them wrong ... it is one thing being made of poor quality material, another thing for some of the dimensions to be out!?!?  ____________________ The purpose of life is to fight maturity. |
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I am not sure how they get them wrong ... it is one thing being made of poor quality material, another thing for some of the dimensions to be out!?!?  |
Poor chinese eyesight when machining them
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The helmet did an excellent job. As you can see from the photo, I smacked my face off the road, causing the visor to ping off. I hardly realised it had happened; at no point was their any pain at all, I never felt stunned, even the glasses I was wearing are completely unaltered. Quite amazig really.  |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 14 years, 45 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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