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willis1337
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 18 May 2011    Post subject: Puncture repair kit and travel insurance Reply with quote

Am going away next weekend to France and am yet to get a pucture repair kit and travel insurance, so what do you recommend?

Puncture repair kit - I am v limited for space so the smaller the better (sportsbike tyres).

Travel insurance - I already have european breakdown cover included with my Carol Nash fully comp bike policy (also a member of the AA in the UK for the car) so just something to cover me if I have a major smash while away.

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PostPosted: 14:20 - 18 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heine gericke do a stab-through bung kit that I've used several times before to good effect. It fits under the saddle on my VFR. Just be aware that the cannisters will put just enough air in a sportsbike tyre to allow you to limp to an airline.

I've seen other brands which are pretty much the same thing. Check it has the figure of 8 style bungs.
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 18 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats probably the tip-top brand kits, they are good.

If you are using avon tyres i wouldn't bother with a kit, never been able to plug one successfully as yet.

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PostPosted: 14:59 - 18 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Puncture outfits are down to the indivdual persons choice.
Take a look at:
Ultraseal I wouldn`t normally use it if I was riding my bike soley in the UK, however I have used it on 4-5 tyres for several trips into europe, and wouldn`t hesitate to use it again.
I have just swopped the front tyre out recently, and the old tyre did have ultraseal in. (just make sure the tyre fitter is aware you have it in your tyres BEFORE he takes the old tyre off to fit the next one. or you`ll be the most hated person in the workshop if you don`t mention it.

Stop & go https://www.stopngo.com/products/Pocket-Tire-Plugger-%252d-For-All-Tubeless-Tires.html
kit is the best, bar none. Kits available for tubed or tubless tyres.

"Monster air chuck" sold by genuine innovations.
https://www.genuineinnovations.com/monster-air-chuck.html (1 x 45g canister will fill an ATV or car tyre to a working pressure)

Moto pump https://www.motopumps.com 12v compressor (Basic kit - is a stripped down, caseless version of the £10 - £15 compressor you can buy in Wilkos or argos etc) But if you buy a cheap mini compressor just strip the case off

As previously stated, the tyre worms.
I have, or have used all of the above items

As for insurance, Carol Nash bike insurance/breakdown/recovery is reputed to be good. I also use CN travel insurance, this covers the stuff that isn`t covered by your bike insurance, costs around £70-£75 PA. Remember that most travel insurance policys won`t cover you for riding bikes over 125cc
I`ve had CN travel insurance for the last few years, mainly to cover the aditional ancillery kit I carry, panniers, clothing, camping kit etc. Though I`ve never needed to test the detail by using the cover.
I`ve recently chatted to the customer services dept of CN about the detail of the travel insurance, and they told me I`d be covered in case of accident, even if I was riding any sized bike up to & inc a rocket 3
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willis1337
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PostPosted: 15:37 - 18 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for the advice. I have a fully comp policy with Carole Nash so breakdown cover is sorted. I got AA travel insurance (which does cover motorcycling) for £15 as I am also an AA member.

The "tip top" pucture repair kit is done by Amazon (https://www.amazon.co.uk/MOTORCYCLE-PUNCTURE-REPAIR-TUBELESS-SELLER/dp/B001AXK9QQ) may not be as good as some others but they are twice the price and then some (and I have Bridgestone tyres so should be okay), so I'll get this for peace of mind / emergencies.

Karma dished, thanks all.
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PostPosted: 02:10 - 19 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have breakdown with NCI (rescuemycar) and travel insurance with the same as they cover riding bikes over 50cc unlikely normal travel policies (if I you have a big smash you don't want to risk them not paying out).

For punctures I have those gummy strips you push and then pull back through the hole and a 12v pump to reinflate. Not had to use it yet but it should work as a temporary repair until a car garage can be located to bung it properly.
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 19 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you need travel insurance for really? Riding abroad is no different that the UK. If you crash, they won't leave you to die on the side of the road, and your breakdown cover should include repatriation anyway.

I'm with ADAC and they cover all sorts for breakdown. Including air ambulance costs.

BTW - your fully comp policy is useless in Europe. You'll only be covered 3rd party.
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PostPosted: 00:38 - 20 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

c-m wrote:
What do you need travel insurance for really? Riding abroad is no different that the UK. If you crash, they won't leave you to die on the side of the road, and your breakdown cover should include repatriation anyway.

BTW - your fully comp policy is useless in Europe. You'll only be covered 3rd party.


Ask some people who have had to claim off it for medical costs to know why it's important. Breakdown will cover repatriation of you and the bike in a breakdown. It will not cover a private flight to take you back to the UK to recieve medical attention.

Every country will give you emergency medical help and EHIC will cover those costs, longer term medical costs though after initial life saving or emergency treatment will need to be claimed off travel insurance including long hospital stays and as previously mentioned, repatriation if necessary which can be obscenely expensive if you're in a critical condition and need transfering to a UK hospital. Emergency services often charge too for ambulances and helicopters.

You have shown quite a few times c-m that you don't like to do things just because they haven't happened to you, ie carry the documents you're legaly required to or have appropriate insurance cover, that's fine but don't recommend it to others.

Fully comp with nearly all companies is active in Europe (with exceptions like Romania and Bulgaria sometimes), you think anyone would take their £20K+ car abroad if they could not claim in the event of an accident that was not anyone elses fault? 20K down the drain, I think not. There are companies who drop cover to TPO abroad but they're rare.

Check you ADAC text properly, assuming you have even read it seeing as it's usually exclusively in German. Air ambulances are only provided in Germany to "Plus" members, outside Germany they are available to it's travel insurance policy holders only.
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PostPosted: 09:36 - 20 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:




You have shown quite a few times c-m that you don't like to do things just because they haven't happened to you, ie carry the documents you're legaly required to or have appropriate insurance cover.


Partially true. It's got nothing to do with 'like', more to do with what is available to me at the time (e.g one time a license was lost in a jacket, impossible to get a new one in time).

Always had the required motor insurance cover.

Travel insurance cover is a personal choice, a bit like home contents insurance. The EHIC entitles you to pay what a local would (if they actually pay at all in that country).

In this thread i actually asked a question rather than dispensing advice. Apart from the Carole Nash Comp insurance. Checked the policy so i was wrong on that one. It's certainly worth checking as some motorcycle insurers like to skimp on things like that.

The ADAC documentation is quite easy to read is you've lived in Austria for long period and have an have a German speaking native girlfriend Wink

Anyway. I apologise. If you're of such disposition, cover yourself up and enjoy your trip knowing you've got piece of mind.
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PostPosted: 09:41 - 20 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Travel insurance = peace of mind (not just for me but my mrs and kids too). £15 is not a big expense for this IMO.

Although if I were single, with no dependents, I may not bother.

Insurance is always a bit of an area where you can make savings, but it is a gamble. I often think I would be well ahead of the game if I had only taken out TPO policies throughout my life as I have been lucky enough not to have to make a claim. But that's what you are paying for - peace of mind.

(Also that's why I do the lottery, only a couple of quid a week - obviously it'd be nice winning - but you can't dream / hope of winning if you don't buy a ticket and that's what I am buying I suppose.)
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 20 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye good post.

In terms of puncture repair, I have once used some stuff i bought from Hein Gerick.

It's a canister of C02 and foam in one. Once you've got a flat you screw the clear tube it comes with to the valve and just press the button. You can see air and foam going into the tyre.

It'll inflate the tyre to around 13psi and plug the hole pretty much right away.

https://www.hein-gericke.co.uk/motul-tyre-repair.html
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 20 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

c-m wrote:
Aye good post.

In terms of puncture repair, I have once used some stuff i bought from Hein Gerick.

It's a canister of C02 and foam in one. Once you've got a flat you screw the clear tube it comes with to the valve and just press the button. You can see air and foam going into the tyre.

It'll inflate the tyre to around 13psi and plug the hole pretty much right away.

https://www.hein-gericke.co.uk/motul-tyre-repair.html

I wound`t throw that stuff in the tyre of a bike belonging to my worst enemy, and deffinately never in a tyre on a bike I own
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PostPosted: 01:10 - 23 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peirre oBollox wrote:
I wound`t throw that stuff in the tyre of a bike belonging to my worst enemy, and deffinately never in a tyre on a bike I own


That stuff you would not throw in your worst enemy's tyre. Has got me and a few of my riding mate's out of trouble. Quick easy and no trouble. Will get you to the next place. For a proper repairer job. Take something else as well. But one of them tyre weld canister's are a God send on a cold wet dark night.
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 24 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

It may well get you home. But as previously stated tyre foam doesn't inflate the tyre enough to get it to a decent working pressure. It also states that it shouldn't be used and the bike ridden at above a certain speed. Also once the stuff has been used it will vertually render the tyre useless. A tyre that may well have been possibly repaired later on. So IMO it isn't the best cost effective method when compare with plugs & tyre worms etc
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 24 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peirre oBollox wrote:
It may well get you home. But as previously stated tyre foam doesn't inflate the tyre enough to get it to a decent working pressure. It also states that it shouldn't be used and the bike ridden at above a certain speed. Also once the stuff has been used it will vertually render the tyre useless. A tyre that may well have been possibly repaired later on. So IMO it isn't the best cost effective method when compare with plugs & tyre worms etc


The one I use is not a foam it's a liquid. Onced used. It's a tyre off and pour out jobie. Then plug the hole, and you are away. As for low pressure, OK. But the next garage will have an air line that will give you the correct pressure. They have moved on quite a bit from the solid foam type.
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