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spakcliffe
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PostPosted: 16:55 - 20 May 2011    Post subject: Derbi GPR 50 starting problems Reply with quote

Hi guys, having a little trouble with my Derbi. The electric start is turning over fine but the bike wont fire up. Occasionally it will but most of the time it wont. I have to bump start it nearly every time i turn the engine off and on again.
Any help please?
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ThoughtContro...
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PostPosted: 17:07 - 20 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

It starts easy off a bump every time?

If so, is your battery on it's last legs? Enough power to turn over but not enough for a healthy spark maybe?
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 20 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the above. If the bike starts ok with a bump start but not on the electric start, then it must be a sluggish battery not spinning the engine over fast enough.

Either that or it's an engine cut-out thing. I.e when you bump start, I bet your side stand is up.

Gaz
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spakcliffe
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 20 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replys
Yeah it bump starts easily but I will check out the battery although I put a new one in last year :/
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ThoughtContro...
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 20 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

spakcliffe wrote:
I will check out the battery although I put a new one in last year :/


How often do you charge it? How often is the bike ridden and for how long? Batteries self discharge if left standing. Not by much, but it adds up. Commuting short distances doesn't top up the battery that much. Turning over the engine canes the battery. Even if it's new it will still need charging from time to time to keep it topped up and in good health. Deeply discharged batteries don't have a long life span.

Overcharging can also kill em. A fit and forget charger like an optimate or similar is a good investment. A meter is too, since it saves guesswork on batteries and electrics.

Gaz, if the sidestand switch was duff, wouldn't that disable the starter motor also? Or are Derbi's wired up differently?
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 20 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThoughtControl wrote:


Gaz, if the sidestand switch was duff, wouldn't that disable the starter motor also? Or are Derbi's wired up differently?


I don't know about Derbi specifically, but the kill switch on an NC30 kills the spark rather than the starter motor. So it'll spin over and just not fire.

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PostPosted: 21:41 - 20 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazdaman wrote:
ThoughtControl wrote:


Gaz, if the sidestand switch was duff, wouldn't that disable the starter motor also? Or are Derbi's wired up differently?


I don't know about Derbi specifically, but the kill switch on an NC30 kills the spark rather than the starter motor. So it'll spin over and just not fire.

Gaz


Its the same on Derbi's.

As above, sounds like your battery is down. Charge it up and try again Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 21 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had this problem with mine when I got it.

Change the plug. Cures it every time.
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